Die Martis, 21 Decembris, 1641.
PRAYERS.
Prisoner discharged.
THE Petition of Geo. Long, Esquire, was this Day
read: And it was thereupon
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Geo. Long,
now a Prisoner in the Tower, by former Order from this
House, shall be forthwith discharged from any farther
Imprisonment; and that Mr. Speaker shall forthwith
issue forth his Warrant to the Lieutenant of the Tower
to discharge him accordingly.
St. Andrewe's Parish.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill for dividing St. Andrewe's Parish, Holborne, shall meet on
Thursday at Eight of Clock.
Examination of Beale, &c.
Sir Walter Earle reporteth from the Committee appointed to take the Examination of Captain Beale, and
others, about Sixteen Queries, and other Matters: And,
for a further Discovery thereof, it is recommitted to the
same Committee, to take it into Consideration.
Defence of the Kingdom.
1a
vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the better settling of
a military Power for the Defence of the Kingdom.
Person called in.
Mr. John Ridley the Under Sheriff of the County of
Northumberland, was called in, according to the Order
of Yesterday, * * * *
Person sent for.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Dr. Gray, Person
of Pontelard, in the County of Northumberland, shall be
forthwith sent for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at
Arms attending on this House.
Poll-money.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Poll-money
shall have Power to receive the Certificates that come
from the several Counties concerning the Poll-money;
and shall consider of them; and, as Occasion shall be,
report to the House.
Irish Affairs.
Many Letters were this Day read, concerning Ireland:
Some for Sir Wm. Brereton; One from the Attorney
General of Ireland; Sir Wm. Brereton informs, that Sir
Simon Harcourt's Regiment is compleat, and that there
are Four or Five hundred more chearful Voluntiers which
are ready to go, if they had Commission.
Ditto.
Sir Ph. Stapilton informs, that the Earl of Leicester
told him, that upon late Advertisements, he conceived
that there was no Way to succour Dublyn but by Diversion in the North; which can no way be so well done
as by the Scotts.
Ordered, That a Message be sent to the Lords, so
soon as they are set, to desire to know their Lordships
present Resolutions, whether they will consent to the
Propositions made by the Scotts, for the present Raising
of Ten thousand Scotts; and the Resolutions of this
House upon those Propositions; "And likewise to
"desire, that Order may be given for the Beating of
"Drums, for Raising of Volunteers here in England."[a]
Sir Philip Stapilton went up to the Lords with this
Message.
Forces for Ireland.
That Directions may be sent by this Post, that those
Volunteers that are at Chester, over-and-above those
that Sir Simon Harcourt has Commission to transport
* * * *
Mr. Pym informed the House, that this Matter was
Yesternight moved at the Committee; and that the
Lord Lieutenant of Ireland did assure them, that he
would give present Directions for the Transporting of
them.
Soldiers Pay.
Mr. Hampden is appointed to acquaint the Soldiers
that petitioned this House, that the House is now entering into the Consideration of Raising of Monies; and
hope they shall be able to give them real Satisfaction
before they rise.
Owen's, &c. Propositions.
That Sir Hugh Owen's Proposition, and Mr. Baker's
Proposition, be referred to the Consideration of the
Committee for Irish Affairs.
Sir W. Balfour.
Sir Wm. Balfour is required to attend the House.
Raising Money.
The House was resolved into a Committee, to consider of some way of raising Monies.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde was called to the Chair.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair: And,
Upon Mr. Serjeant Wilde's Report, it was
Resolved, upon the Question, That a Clause shall be
added to the Bill for the Collection for the Irish Protestants who are come over, for the Raising of Monies,
by way of Benevolence, or voluntary Loan, through the
Kingdom.
Resolved, &c. That the Committee for That Bill
shall have Power to add this Clause to the Bill.
Resolved, &c. That Commissioners be nominated
and authorized by the Act, for the Receiving of this
Money.
Mr. Serjeant Euers, Mr. Serjeant Wilde, Mr. Hebblethwayte, Mr. Whittlock, are presently to withdraw, for
the Inserting of the Clauses aforesaid into the Bill
aforesaid.
Raising Money.
The House was again resolved into a Committee.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde called to the Chair: And
The Committee proceeded to the Reading of the Bill
for the Raising of Four hundred thousand Pounds.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Answer from Lords.
Sir Philip Stapilton brings Answer, that the Lord
Keeper told him, that the House was not yet full enough
to enter into the Consideration of Businesses of so great
Consequence: So soon as it shall fill, they will take it
into Consideration: and send a speedy Answer.
House for Scotch Commissioners.
The House does accept of the free Offer of Mr.
Martin, to accommodate the Scotts Commissioners with
a House, at the Rent of One hundred Pounds per
Annum; and returns him Thanks for it: And, if any of
the Goods shall be lost or spoiled, the House does undertake to make it good: And, if any Goods shall be
wanting for the well Furnishing of it, Mr. Venn, and Mr.
Spurstow, are desired to take care for the Supplying of
it upon the best Terms they can.
Raising Money.
The House was again resolved into a Committee.
Mr. Serjeant Wilde was called to the Chair: And
The Committee proceeded to the Reading of the Bill
for Raising of Four hundred thousand Pounds.
Mr. Speaker resumed the Chair.
Irish Affairs.
The humble Petition of divers Lords and Gentlemen,
all or most Part of whose Estates is in the Power of the
Rebels in Ireland, was read.
Ordered, That Mr. Hollis do go to the Lords with
this Message; and acquaint their Lordships, that this
House hath received a Petition from divers Lords and
Gentlemen, whose Estates are taken from them by the
Rebels in Ireland; who are very sensible of the Miseries
of the Protestants there, and of the great Danger the
whole Kingdom is in, if instant and speedy Supply be
not made both by English and Scotts; and, that in their
Petition, they desire the Ten thousand Scotts, assented
unto by this House, may be sent over; and that the
same may be recommended by this House to the Lords,
to hasten the same: And, to let the Lords know, that, if
they after so many Messages concerning this Particular,
cannot receive their Resolution; that they must acquit
themselves to the World of their Endeavours: And to
deliver the Lords the Petition itself.
Contribution for Ireland.
Mr. Serjeant Euers reporteth the Bill for the Benevolence, and voluntary Contribution, for the Occasions of
Ireland, together with the Amendments.
Ordered, That the same Commissioners, and the
same Treasurers, that were nominated in the Poll Bill,
shall be the Commissioners and Treasurers to be nominated in this Bill for the Benevolence, &c. And it is
Ordered, That the Bill be recommitted to the same
Committee.
State of Money.
Mr. Wheeler reports the State of the Money, in hac
Verba:
|
£. |
s. |
d. |
| Received of the several Wards, and
others, towards the Loan of Fifty
thousand Pounds for the Irish Affairs - - - - - |
44,977 |
- |
- |
| Paid, in all,per divers Orders of the
House - - - - - |
33,457 |
6 |
8 |
| Rest in Cash - - |
11,519 |
13 |
4 |
| Received, in all for the Four Subsidies, |
206,659 |
14 |
1 |
| Paid, in all, to private Lenders of the
Fifty thousand Pounds, by AlderMen and Citizens of London, to Sir
John Harrison, to Alderman Penington, to divers Gentlemen of the
House, and to Sir Wm. Uvedale for
the Army - - - - |
191,903 |
- |
6 |
| Rest - - |
14,756 |
13 |
7 |
| Account of Poll-money, and Loan General, to the 18th
of December, 1641. |
| Received Poll-money, as per Particulars in the Accont general, apperas |
168,608 |
17 |
5 3/4 |
| Loan Money - - - - - |
76,300 |
- |
- |
| From Sir Paul Pindar - - - |
10,489 |
18 |
[4] |
| Total - - |
255,458 |
15 |
9 3/4 |
| Paid, as per Particulars mentioned in
the Account current general - |
224,213 |
17 |
8 |
| Paid Loan-money, and Interest - |
25,523 |
13 |
- |
| Remains in Cash - - |
5,721 |
4 |
10 3/4 |
|
£. |
255,458 |
15 |
9 3/4 |
Officers Pay.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Thirteen thousand
Pounds, being the Moiety of the Wages due to the
Officers of the late Army, shall be forthwith paid out of
the Monies remaining in ready Cash, upon the Subsidies,
and the Poll-money, unto Sir Wm. Uvedale, Treasurer
at Wars; to issue out proportionably to the Officers,
according to the Earl of Holland's Directions: And the
Commissioners of London for the Poll-money are hereby
required to pay Three thousand Pounds to the said Sir
Wm. Uvedale: and the Treasurers for the Subsidies the
other Ten thousand Pounds; the Remainder of the
Thirteen thousand Pounds aforesaid.
Irish Affairs.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and
Mr. Page;
The Lords desire a present Conference by a Committee of both Houses, if it may stand the Conveniency
of this House, concerning the Affairs of Ireland.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; That this
House is resolved to give a present Meeting, as is
desired.desired.
Sir H. Vane, Mr. Pym, * Colpeper, are appointed
Reporters of this Conference.
Sir H. Vane reports the Conference: The Lord
Keeper delivered, in Paper, what was to be imparted
to this House; which was a general and particular
Proposition, delivered in Two several Papers: The
which were read in hac verba, viz.
1. The general Proposition;-To desire to know
what Certainty That House will give This, that if their
Proposition concerning the present Going of Ten
thousand Scotts into Ireland be agreed unto, that Ten
thousand English may speedily follow.
2. Whether they will concur with us, and vote in
their House, that Ten thousand English shall go as
well as Ten thousand Scotts; and that his Majesty be
moved to give Assent thereunto.
Mr. Hotham is appointed to go to the Lords, to
desire them to sit awhile.
Mr. Hotham brings Answer, that their Lordships will
sit awhile, as is desired.
Sir Tho. Barrington is appointed to go to the Lords,
to desire a free Conference, by a Committee of both
Houses, concerning the Matter of the last Conference.
Sir Tho. Barrington brings Answer, that their Lordships will give a present Meeting, as is desired.
Mr. Hollis, Mr. Pym, Sir Philip Stapelton, Sir H.
Vane, Mr. Nath. Fines, Mr. Hampden, are appointed
Managers of this Conference.
Irish Affairs.
Heads for a free Conference with the Lords, concerning the Matter of the last Conference:
THAT it is not the Course of Parliament, nor hath
been practised, for One House to capitulate with the
other.
That this House can give no greater Assurance, than
the Vote of the House.
That this House doth not conceive their Lordships
Proposition hath any Dependence upon the Proposition
sent up by this House, concerning the Ten thousand
Scotts.
That the Propositions, sent to the Lords by this
House, is so necessary, that, unless they receive a
speedy Answer, they conceive there can be no Safety
to Ireland. Therefore to desire a present Answer.
That they can give no certain Answer for the speedy
Sending away the English, so long as the Bill for Pressing
remains with their Lordships, and not passed.
That they be acquainted what the Scoche Commissioners
declared this Day; That, unless this Night they receive
a positive Answer, concerning the Sending away their
Men, they must be enforced to send away To-morrow to
Scotland; and those Two thousand Five hundred Men,
that they have kept so long at their own Charge for the
Service of this Kingdom, must be disbanded.
Ditto.
Mr. Pym presented from the Lord Lieutenant of
Ireland certain Propositions: Which were read: And
it was thereupon
Resolved, upon the Question, That these Propositions,
now presented by Mr. Pym, shall be referred to the
Committee for Irish Affairs, to agree and conclude with
the Officers, upon the best Terms they can, for the Good
of the Commonwealth.
Arms, &c. for Ireland.
Ordered, That the Lords be desired, at a Conference,
to join with this House, to move his Majesty to grant a
Dormant Warrant to the Lieutenant of the Ordnance,
for the Delivery, from time to time, out of his Storehouse,..such Provision of Arms and Munition, or other
Furniture, for the War in Ireland, as shall be thought
necessary by both Houses of Parliament.
Letter to Ld. Strange.
Ordered, That Sir Hen. Vaine do write his Letter to the
Lord Strange; and to acquaint his Lordship what this
House is informed of concerning some Letters directed
to Popish Commanders, and which his Lordship sent up
hither; and to know of his Lordship, by whom those
Letters were sent, and to whom they were directed.
List of Officers.
Ordered, That Sir H. Mildmay shall go to the Lord
Lieutenant of Ireland, and desire him, from this House,
to send in a List of the Names of his Officers.
Artillery Train.
Ordered, That on Thursday next, at Ten of Clock,
the House shall take into Consideration the Settling
the Business concerning the Train of Artillery.
Hill's Recommendation.
Ordered, That the Certificates now read on the Behalf
of Wm. Hill Gentleman, from the Lord Chancellor and
Judges in Ireland, and the Earl of Ormond, for some
Place of Employment in the Wars in Ireland, be referred
to the Consideration of the Committee for Irish Affairs,
to recommend him the said Mr. Hill to the Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland, for a Place accordingly.
Scandalous Ministers.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill concerning
scandalous Ministers be revived; and do meet upon that
Bill on Thursday Morning at Eight of Clock, in the
Court of Wards.
Ministers Petition.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Ministers Remonstrance do take into Consideration the Petition last
presented by the Ministers; and to examine the Suggestions in the said Petition: And are to meet on
Thursday come Sevennight at Eight..Clock, in the
Exchequer-chamber.
Gracechurch Minister.
Ordered, That Alderman Pennington do take care to
bring the Witnesses of the Parish of Gracechurch, to
testify That Information he gave the House this Day
against the Minister of that Parish.
Information against Beale.
Ordered, That the Committee for the Bill for scandalous Minister, do take into Consideration the Matter
informed of against Dr. Beale.
The Seven Priests.
Ordered, That Sir Philip Stapleton do go on Thursday
next to the Lords with this Message; To know what
is done concerning the Seven Priests.
Forces for Ireland.
Mr. Hollis reports from the free Conference with the
Lords, that they have voted, in their House, that Ten
thousand English shall go into Ireland: That they have
likewise voted, that Ten thousand Scotts shall go into
Ireland.
Treaty with Scotland.
Ordered, That the Commissioners of this House, appointed to treat with the Scoch Commissioners, shall have
Power to proceed with the Scoch Commissioners in that
Treaty, and to receive further Propositions from them.
Adjourned till-Thursday Ten of Clock.