Die Martis, 2 Nov. 1641.
ORDERED, That this House does well approve
of the good Intentions and Desires of the Ministers
of the County of Lincolne, for Setting up and Maintaining
of Lectures in the Parish Churches, on the Week-days,
where there is no Preaching: And do order, that those
things should be performed, according to their Desires.
Petition to the King.
Ordered, That the Committee for preparing Heads for
a Petition to be preferred to his Majesty, for preventing
the Inconveniencies that may happen to the Commonwealth, by the Choice of ill Counsellors, Officers, &c.
do sit this Afternoon at Four of Clock, in the Exchequer-chamber.
A Member expelled for selling Protections.
Mr. Reynolds reports the Case of Mr. Benson, a Member of this House, concerning several Protections granted
by him, to divers Men that were not his menial Servants:
"1. That Mr. Benson, who serveth for the Town of
Knavesborough, in the County of Yorke, hath granted several Protections to several Persons in London, Middlesex,
Nottinghamshire, Dorsettshire, Kent, Essex, and Surrey:
All this did appear, by the Protections brought from the
Two Compters in London. He employed Preston, his
Servant, and another, his Son-in-law; and as they made
the Contracts, sometimes for Forty Shillings, Thirty Shillings, Twenty Shillings, and sometimes for Seventeen
Shillings, so he granted the same accordingly. Preston,
being examined before the Committee, confessed, his Master had granted Twenty Protections; and that his Son-in-law did write them, and usually had Ten Shillings for
the same. Next, one Joseph Smith, a Scrivener, was
examined: who confessed, Preston, in the Beginning of
the Parliament, came unto him, and desired him to write
some blank Protections; and accordingly he writ Eight or
Nine: That afterwards Preston came to him, and shewed
him Two Protections, signed with Mr. Benson's Hand;
and that he knew it to be his Hand: And that he delivered those Protections to one Procter and Hawkins; the
One gave Sixteen Shillings; the other Seventeen Shillings;
for them: Afterwards, Procter made use of his Protection against his Landlord; and the Landlord repaired
to Mr. Benson, who said, that, as to himself, it should be
of no Force. Afterwards, Mr. Benson granted a Protection to one Silvester, under his Hand and Seal; who gave
Forty Shillings for it; and that Protection was produced
at the Committee: And Silvester examined there, and
confessed he paid Forty Shillings for it. We had Copies
of divers other Protections, which were entered at the
Two Compters, that all People might take notice thereof."
"Mr. Benson, being desired by the Committee to
make Answer to these Matters, said, he could not charge
his Memory with the certain Number of the Protections
he had granted; but confessed, he had granted many;
and that he conceived it was his Privilege, as a Member
of this House, to do so."
"Upon the whole Matter, the Committee would deliver no Opinion, because it concerned a Member of the
House; but commanded me to report it specially, and
to leave him to the Judgment of the House."
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. H. Benson is
unworthy and unfit to be a Member of this House; and
shall sit no longer as a Member of this House.
Resolved, That Mr. H. Benson shall be forthwith sent
for, as a Delinquent, by the Serjeant at Arms attending
on this House.
Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. Speaker shall
issue forth his Warrant to the Clerk of the Crown in
Chancery, for a new Writ, to be directed to the Sheriff
of the County of Yorke, for Electing of another Burgess
to serve in his Stead.
Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds
Mr. H. Benson unfit and uncapable ever to sit in Parliament, or to be a Member of this House hereafter.
Scotch Army, &c.
A Letter from Sir W. Armyne, and Mr. Hampden, to
Mr. Speaker, of the 27th of Oct. dated from Morpeth;
and a Note inclosed; concerning the Answer of the
Scotts to the Demands of the English Committee, concerning the total Disbanding of the Army, and Sleighting
of their new Works.
Resolved, upon the Question, That the Delivery of the
Letter from the Committee in Scotland, and the Paper
inclosed, shall be one Head of the Conference.
Apprehending M. Monsigott.
Ordered, That the Serjeant shall have a Warrant for the
Apprehending of Monsieur Monsigott, for a Delinquent,
according to the Resolution of the House Yesterday.
Payment to R. English.
Ordered, That Sir Ro. Pye, and the rest of the Treasurers for the Poll-money at Westminster, do pay Two
hundred Pounds to Robert English, Merchant, consigned
by the Committee of this House in Scotland.
Grant to Queen Mother.
Ordered, That the Treasurers of London do pay the
Sum of Two thousand Pounds to Sir Jo. Nulls, according
to former Orders of this House, to the Use of the Queen
Mr. Whitlocke reporteth the Conference last Night
with the Lords, concerning the Affairs in Ireland.
"The Lord Keeper said, the Lords did take in good
part our Care in the speedy Provision of Fifty thousand
Pounds; and for the Prevention of further Danger in Ireland: They commanded him to return their Lordships
Answer; 1. That they had appointed a select Committee,
of Twelve Members of their House, to meet with a select
Committee of a proportionable Number of this House, to
go into the City, for the Providing of Monies. They
have also appointed Twenty-six of their House, to meet
with a proportionable Number of this House, to consider
of the Affairs in Ireland. 3. They do agree to the Reward to be given to Owen Connelles. 4. They appoint the
said Committee of Twenty-six to take the further Examination of Owen Connelles, upon Oath, in the Presence of
the Committee of this House. And, for the Securing of
the Persons of Papists, he said, they were of Two Sorts;
Persons convicted, and others not convicted: For those
convicted, they agree unto; for the other, they refer it
to the Consideration of the Committee. And, lastly, they
agree to a Proclamation to issue forth, for the Calling
back by Proclamation those English Papists, that have
gone over into Ireland within One Year."
Loan from the City.
Sir Tho. Barrington, Lord Falkland, Sir Walth. Erle,
Sir H. Vane, Mr. Pierrepoint, Sir Edw. Hungerford,
Mr. Bellassis. Sir Rich. Onslowe, Mr. Glyn, Sir Martin
Lumley, Sir Arth. Haselrig, Sir Ro. Pye, Sir Wm. Lewis,
Sir John Pawlett, Sir Guy Palmes, Sir Ro. Parkhurst,
Sir Anth. Irby, Sir Wm. Litton, Lord Compton, Sir John
Clotworthy, the Burgesses of London;
This Committee is to meet with a proportionable Number of the Lords, to go into the City of London, to treat
with them about the Loan of Fifty thousand Pounds.
Sir John Clotworthy, Mr. Pym, Mr. Hollis, Sir John
Hotham, Sir Tho. Bowyer, Mr. Crue, Mr. Whitehead, Sir
Hugh Cholmely, Sir John Price, Sir Wm. Brereton, Sir
Oliver Luke, Mr. Nicholls, Lord Falkland, Sir Martin
Lumley, Mr. Strode, Lord Lisle, Lord Dungarvon, Sir
Norton Knatchboll, Sir Rich. Onslowe, Mr. Whittlock,
Mr. Palmer, Mr. Maynard, Sir H. Vane, Sir Tho. Widdrington, Sir Ro. Coke, Mr. Glyn, Sir Arth. Haselrig, Mr.
H. Bellassis, Mr. Sutton, Sir Wm. Litton, Sir Robert
Harley, Mr. Martin, Sir Walth. Erle, Sir Wm. Strickland,
Sir Rich. Cave, Mr. Lucas, Mr. Reynolds, Sir Tho. Barrington, Sir Edw. Hungerford, Mr. Arth. Goodwyn, Mr.
Solicitor, Sir Ro. Parkhurst, Sir Dudley North, Mr. Hide,
Mr. Kirton, Sir John Potts, Mr. Bridgeman, Sir Beauchamp St. Johns, Serjeant Wilde, Sir Symonds D'Ewes,
Mr. Pelham, Sir Anth. Irby, the Burgesses of London;
This Committee, or any Fourteen of them, is appointed to meet with a proportionable Number of the Lords,
to consider of the State of the Irish Affairs.
It is likewise referred unto them, to consider of some
Course for securing the Persons of Papists not convict,
according to One Head of the Conference Yesterday;
and to open Letters, according to the Resolution of this
House, and agreed unto by the Lords.
This Committee is to be a standing Committee; and
to meet at such times as they themselves shall think fit.
Sir John Clotworthy, Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Hollis, Mr.
These Four are to prepare Interrogatories, to be administered to the Servant of Sir John Clotworthy; that
discovered the Treasons of Ireland.
Resolved, upon the Question, That One Head of the
next Conference shall be, to desire the Lords to give an
Answer to that Head of the Conference Yesterday, concerning the putting the Custody of the Isle of Wight into
Proceedings against Recusants.
Ordered, That those Gentlemen that were employed
in the Disarming of Recusants in the County of Southampton, do forthwith take some Course for the Disposing
and Dispersing of the Arms of the Marquis of Winton,
in such manner as they may be best for the Defence of
the Country; according to the Directions of the Ordinance of Parliament, made in that Behalf.
Ordered, That Sir Tho. Widrington do prepare a Bill,
and present it to the House, concerning the better Bringing of Recusants to their Trial, for their Conviction:
First, in considering in what manner the Attorney may
grant his Warrants to the Clerks of the Assize, to pray a
Tales in the Convicting of Recusants; and to prevent the
Abuse in granting Certioraris, to the Hindrance of their
Ordered, That the Lord George, who is Captain of Hurst
Castle, be forthwith summoned to appear here, to give
an Account why he suffered that Castle to go to Decay.
Turkish, &c. Captives.
2da vice lecta est Billa, An Act for the Relief of the
Captives, taken by Turkish, Moorish, and other Pirates;
and to prevent the Taking of others in time to come: And,
upon Question, committed unto Mr. Waller, Mr. Vassall,
Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Kinge, Mr. Mathewes, Sir Ro. Pye,
Mr. Pury, and to the Committee for the Captives of Algiers: And are to meet this Day Sevennight at Four post
meridiem, in the Exchequer-chamber: And have Power
to send for Parties, Witnesses, Papers, and Records.
Arundell, &c. Election.
Ordered, That the Business shall be heard To-morrow
concerning the Election for Arundell and Tewksbury.
Forming Ambassador's Doors.
Ordered, That May and Newton, Messengers authorized by this House to apprehend Priests, be summoned
to appear here To-morrow Morning to answer their breaking open the Doors of the Agent of the Duke of Florence:
And that his Kinsman and Servants, carried to Prison
by those Messengers, be forthwith set at Liberty, upon
the Agent's passing his Word, that they shall be ready
at all times to attend the House.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Ro. Rich and Sir
The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both
Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, concerning
That the Lord Chamberlain of the Household had to speak
and relate to the Lord Marquis Hertford; and concerning That the Lord of Holland had to relate to the Queen;
and concerning the Guard appointed to attend the House
Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this
House has taken their Lordships Message into Consideration; and will give a present Meeting as is desired.
Sir Walth. Erle, Mr. Crew, Sir Tho. Widdrington,
Mr. Whittlock, Mr. Hide, Sir Simonds D'Ewes, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.
Interrogatories to Ocannoly
INTERROGATORIES to be administered to
What Ground had you to suspect, that the Papists had
any Design upon the State of Ireland?
What have you heard any Priests, or others, say, concerning the Promoting of the Romish Religion?
What Discourse have you had with Hugh Ogh Mac
Mahoun, concerning any such Design in Ireland?-Declare the whole Matter.
Have you heard of any Design of the like Nature in
England or Scotland? What is it you heard?-Declare
your whole Knowledge.
Committee to the City.
A Message from the Lords, by Sir Edw. Leech and
The Lords do understand, that the Lord Mayor and
the Common-council are ready, expecting Committees
of both Houses: Their Lordships are ready; and expect
the Committee of this House.
Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this
House has considered of their Lordships Message; and
is resolved, that the Committee of this House shall meet
the Committee of their Lordships presently, in the Painted Chamber.
Mr. Whittlock reports the Conference this Day had
with the Lords:
Proceedings concerning the Prince.
"That the Lord Keeper said, the Lord Chamberlain
and Earl of Essex had Command from the Lords, to deliver the Substance of this Conference, which consisted of
three Parts: The Lord Chamberlain said, according to
the Commands of both Houses, he went to Richmond to
the Marquis of Hartford; and acquainted him with the
Commands of both Houses, to take the Prince into his
Charge. He went from thence to Oatlands, and stayed
there all Day; but, in regard there was no Lodging there
for him, the Marquis returned to Richmond. That the
Queen told him, she had appointed the Prince to return
as this Day to Richmond: And he believes he is returned
Sir Tho. Widdrington reports further of this Conference;
"That the Earl of Holland said, he had, according to
the Commands of both Houses, waited upon her Majesty; and presented her with the Reasons of both Houses,
why they desired that the Prince should reside at Richmond; 1. Because that he lost much Opportunity in Improving himself in his Learning and Study by being at
Oatlands: Next, though the Parliament doth not think
her Majesty would intimate any thing unto him concerning her Religion; yet there were many about her, which
might prepare him with those Impressions in his Religion, which might sit upon him many Years after.
Next, that in this time, so full of Danger, (for we
hear of new Treasons every Day) that the Prince might
be more secure; and yet, his Lordship said, he acquainted the Queen, that it was not the Intention of the
Houses of Parliament, that the Prince should not at all
wait upon her Majesty; but might come when her Majesty was desirous to see him; but yet, that his Place of
Residence might be at Richmond: For otherwise his Governor could not take that Charge over him, as was required by the Parliament; nor be answerable for such Servants as were about him. His Lordship was pleased further to say, that her Majesty gave this Answer: That she
gave the Parliament Thanks for their Care of her Son:
The Occasion wherefore her Majesty sent for him, was to
celebrate the Birth-day of One of his Sisters; but, that the
Prince should be presently sent back to Richmond: And
her Majesty said, she did make no doubt, but upon the
King's Return, the Parliament will express the like Care
both of the King's Honour and Safety."
Mr. Whitlocke further reports; "The Lord Chamberlain said at this Conference, that he had taken Care for
a Guard: That many of them complained of standing
upon their Guard Twenty-four Hours, without Relief,
and some Captains neglected to come: Therefore, Order
to be taken."
Ordered, That Captain Jennings and Captain Smyth
be summoned to appear, to give Reason . . . they and
their Companies did not appear, according to the Orders
Ordered, That Mr. Wheeler do speak to Mr. Willis, to
permit the Soldiers to have his Kitchen for a Court of
Sir Jo. Hepsley, Sir Rob. Pye, Sir Gilbert Gerard, Mr.
Wheeler, Sir John Franklyn, Sir Rich. Cave, Sir Rich.
Wynne, Mr. Bell;
This Committee is to consider what Recompence is fit
to be given to the Soldiers, and in what manner: And
the Consideration of filling the Companies is likewise referred to this Committee.
Sir Wm. Masham is appointed to go to the Lords, to
acquaint their Lordships, that this House has appointed
a proportionable Number of their Members, to meet with
the Committee of the Lords appointed for Irish Affairs:
And to desire their Lordships to appoint a Time when
the Committees shall meet.
Sir Wm. Masham brings this Answer; that the Lords
have appointed To-morrow at Nine of the Clock, in the
Painted Chamber, for both Committees to meet.