Henry VIII
July 1541, 1-10

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'Henry VIII: July 1541, 1-10', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 16: 1540-1541 (1898), pp. 465-477. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76249 Date accessed: 26 November 2014.


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July 1541, 1–10

1 July. 948. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
207.
Meeting at Enfield, 1 July. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Hertford, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Sadler. No business recorded.
1 July 949. Henry VIII. to Lord William Howard.
R. O.
St. P., vii.
583.
Directs him, on receipt of these, to repair to the French king and say that, considering the controversy between them touching the Cousuade and Cowbridge remains yet undecided, the King trusts he will make no innovation which might provoke unkindness. If he refuse, or suffer any new attemptate to be made, Howard shall require him to consider that the first breach of the treaties proceeds from him, and not from the King, who cannot think his friendship so imperfect that he would engender displeasure for so little a matter.
Howard shall set forth this matter temperately, as not seeking to provoke any pique or breach of amity, and mark well his gesture and countenance. He is also to learn men's inclinations towards England, and report all other occurrents diligently, and so “redubbe” his slackness hitherto.
Draft in Sadler's hand, pp. 4. Endd.: The minute of the King's letter to the lord William of the 1st July.
1 July. 950. Russell, Lord Admiral.
R. O. Acknowledgment by John lord Russell, 1 July 33 Hen. VIII., of receipt from Edw. North, treasurer of Augmentations, of 100 mks., being his half year's fees of the Admiralty due at St. John's day last. Signed.
P.
1.
1 July. 951. Sir Wm. Eure to Westmoreland.
See No. 982 (3).
1 July. 952. Ferdinand, King of the Romans, to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
582.
Having arrived here for the affairs of this assembly and to seek means to resist the Turk, Henry's ambassadors with the Emperor visited him, with whom he has conversed touching the Turk's intention to invade and occupy Hungary. The ambassadors promised to write of the matter, and Ferdinand is sure that Henry, as a good Christian prince and defender of the Faith, will lend his assistance. Writes to the Emperor's ambassador to speak with him and begs Henry to give him credence. Regensbourg, 1 July 1541. Signed.
French, p.
1. Add.: “bon frere, cousin et bel oncle.” Endd.
2 July. 953. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
207.
Meeting at Enfield, 2 July. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Hertford, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Sadler. Business:—Letter written to the chancellor of the Tenths to deliver lady Dacres of the South 50l. Letter written to Mr. Sackfeld, sheriff or Sussex, to deliver to her “all her apparel of velvet, satin, pearls, stones or goldsmith's work, pertaining as well to her head as to the rest of her body.”
2 July. 954. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
Spanish
Calendar, VI.
i., No. 168.
Almost immediately after Chapuys's return (fn. 1) the King gave the people of Dunkirk permission to buy here a quantity of wood for their own use for curing herrings, and he has frequently reminded Chapuys of the favor, saying he was surprised that the town had not sent a deputation to say how much wood they required. The deputation has arrived, and now, after being kept 13 days without an answer, they have been told that it is mere loss of time to solicit such things till the Queen has promised to release the harness, copper, and war ammunition purchased by the King some time ago at Antwerp. On St. Peter's eve lord Leonard, uncle of the Marquis of Osceter (Dorset) and of the Chancellor's wife, was beheaded in front of the Tower. Hears he was accused of letting his nephew, the young earl of Kildare, escape to France and thence to Liege. That afternoon two gentlemen were hung, one of whom (fn. 2) had an income of over 12,000 ducats a year, and was the handsomest and best bred man in England, only 25 years old and married to a niece of the Duke of Norfolk. He was sentenced for having belonged to a set of eight rakish youths, one of whom had killed a poor old man in an unpremeditated fray. For the same cause lord Dacres also, son (fn. 3) of the Duke of Norfolk's sister, and cousin of this Queen, 23 years old and possessing a property of about 5,000 ducats a year, was hung from the most ignominious gibbet, and for greater shame dragged through the streets to the place of execution, to the great pity of many people, and even of his very judges, who wept when they sentenced him, and in a body asked his pardon of the King. But the thing which astonished people most was, that, the same day lord Dacres was hung, another young man, son of the Treasurer of the Royal household, (fn. 4) who was one of those present at the old man's death, was freely pardoned, though he had been already tried for some like misdemeanour. At the same time in the North, Sir John Neville and about 60 more, among whom at least 25 were ecclesiastics, were executed for the conspiracy of which Chapuys wrote some time ago. Has just heard of the arrival of a Polish gentleman (fn. 5) with eight or ten servants. Will endeavour to discover who he is and what he comes for. London, 2 July 1541.
Original at Vienna.
2 July. 955. The O'Carrolls.
Lamb. MS.
603, p. 97.
Agreement made in the Parliament at Dublin, 2 July 33 Hen. VIII., by the Deputy and Council, between John son of Wm. O'Karroll, Charles alias Calogh O'Karrell, and Thadeus son of Fergananym O'Karrell, as to the rule of Ely O'Karrell, vacant by the death of Fergananym O'Karrell, captain of Ely. Twelve articles providing for the said John and for Thadeus McFir O'Carrell, who are unfit to rule, and dividing the rule equally between the said Charles and Thadeus, &c.
Lat. Copy, pp. 2. See Carew Calendar, No. 155.
2 July. 956. Richard Lee and John Rogers to Henry VIII.
R. O. A certificate of the “estate and forwardness” of the fortifications “on this sides the sea” viz., at Guisnes, Calais and Risebank. Guisnes, 2 July 33 Hen. VIII. Signed.
Pp.
3. Injured by damp. Add. Endd.
2 July. 957. James V. to Sir Wm. Eure.
Add. MS.
32, 646, f. 180.
B. M.
Hamilton
Papers,
No. 73 (4).
Has received his writings of 30 June complaining of pasturing and tilling within the bounds of England, and has written to his wardens to appoint days of meeting with Eure and take redress. If there be other points not concerning their offices “that ye are or may be planteous of” they are ordained to come before our Council to show what they know, that reformation may be made. Edinburgh, 2 July 28 James V. Signed.
P.
1. Add. Sealed.
Royal MS.
18 B., vi.
118b.
B. M.
2. Contemporary copy of the preceding.
P. 1.
3 July. 958. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
207.
Meeting at Enfield, 3 July. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Hertford, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Sadler. Business:—Letter sent to Mr. Chancellor of the Tenths to deliver a demi “fowrre” of lead to Bernardyn de Valois, and a like letter to the Master of the Ordnance to give him quarterly a barrel of saltpetre “to make powder and pellets for their use whom the King's Majesty had appointed him to teach to shoot in a gun.” Order taken that Stephen the Almain should alone have the survey of the works at Carlisle, Thos. Gower meddling only with Berwick, that the bp. of Carlisle should be treasurer of works there, with a clerk under him at 8d. a day, and Sir Thos. Wharton and Edw. Eglenby comptrollers, and that the Bishop, Wharton, and Eglenby should investigate the complaint of Stephen the Almain against Sir Thos. Wentworth, captain of Carlisle, for ill-using the workmen. A letter was thereupon sent to the Bishop, Wharton, and Eglenby, and another to Wentworth to “use himself more temperately.”
3 July. 959. Henry VIII. to the Bishop of Carlisle, Sir Thomas Wharton, and Edward Eglenbye.
Add. MS.
6,362, No. 3.
B. M.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., 208.
Appointed certain fortifications to be made upon the Borders by his servants Thomas Gower and Stephen the Almain. The said Stephen has now declared certain articles concerning the said works, and has exhibited a complaint against Sir Thomas Wentworth, captain of Carlisle. By reason of contentions practised against the said Stephen, the works have not gone so well forward as they might have done. Commissions them to inquire into the said complaint. From henceforth the said Stephen is to have the setting forth of all the works at Carlisle, and Gower has been written to to meddle no longer therein. As the bishop of Carlisle is appointed treasurer of the works, the King will allow him a clerk at 8d. a day. Wharton and Eglenby are to be comptrollers; and one of them must be present, with the Bishop's clerk, at every pay. Manor of Envile, 3 July 33 Hen. VIII. Signed with a stamp and sealed.
Countersigned by Southampton, Sussex, Sir Ant. Browne, Sir Ant. Wingfield, and Ralph Sadler.
Pp.
2. Add.
3 July. 960. Anthony Porter.
R. O. Appointment, made 3 July 1541, 33 Hen. VIII., between Mr. Chr. Savage, lord of Aston under Edge, and Ant. Porter, by Mr. Bramley and Mr. Halys, serjeants at law, relative to Porter's freehold in Aston under Edge.
Later copy, in the same hand as No. 742, p. 1.
3 July. 961. Charles Duke of Suffolk to the Earl of Shrewsbury.
Shrewsb. MSS.
A. f. 65.
Coll. of Arms.
Desires the Earl to send him a fat stag by the 5th Aug., at which time the King intends to visit him at Grymsthorpe. Grymsthorpe, 3 July. Signed.
P.
1. Add.
3 July. 962. Carne and Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O. On Sunday last, 26th ult., arrived at Brussels, where the Queen lay, and on the morrow notified their arrival and desired audience. Within an hour she sent a maître d'hostel to bid them welcome, and again about 2 p.m. to say they should have audience at 8 next morning. Repaired to her at that hour and, after commendations, declared their charge, to which she listened attentively, and replied that she always was glad to maintain the amity between the King and the Emperor and would assign Commissioners to treat with them according to their request, but she required them to have patience for two days till the duke of Arscott (whom she appointed to be one of the Commissioners and who was gone to Barrow to comfort his sister the marquise of Barrow, whose husband was dead) should return. Declared then the receipt of her second letters of 28 May, in answer to those the King wrote, by his servant John Osbron, for the passing of such things as he was charged to provide; desiring her not to weigh those matters like common matters of merchants, as the stay thereof might hinder other good purposes. She asked if they had the particulars and (though Osbron had before presented them) they delivered them, saying that merchants were daily exporting such things. She promised speedy answer, and they took leave. Next morning, as no answer came, they sent to Dr. Score, president of the Council here (to whose hands the bill of particulars had come and by whom all things here are ordered), to know the Queen's answer. He said he would speak with the Queen that afternoon; and, the same afternoon, sent word that he had spoken with the Queen, who would next morning consult her Council and make her answer.
About 12 o'clock next day, 30 June, a gentleman came from the duke of Arscott, who arrived that morning, praying them to be at his lodging, at 2 p.m., where the rest of the Commissioners would be ready to treat of their charge. Went thither, and at the door the Duke met them and brought them to a chamber where were Dr. Score and Skipperus, the other commissioners. When they had declared their charge, Dr. Score answered that their edict was not made upon any sinister report, but the statute made in England in 32 Hen. VIII. was made first, and that statute, though not expressly inhibiting strangers to lade in strange bottoms, implied such an inhibition, so that their ships were compelled to return empty because not able to bear the intolerable custom appointed by that statute; and, whereas the King had granted an immunity for seven years to all strangers to pay no other custom than subjects, the said statute annulled this immunity, to the great damage of subjects of the Low Countries, where Englishmen were more favoured than any other nation, and yet excepted the Oriental merchants, viz., the merchants of the Stullyarde, who deserved no such favour; also that in February last the King prohibited the export of wood, victuals, and other things which were not wont to be prohibited, and when the Emperor's ambassador resident laid the matter before the King's Council he was told that the King might make what statutes he would for the commodity of his realm. He concluded, therefore, that the King should not wonder if the Emperor did the like in his countries, but that if he abolished his statute the Emperor would abolish his edict.
Replied that the statute made did not prohibit (as their edict did) strangers from lading in strange bottoms, paying the custom which had been used time out of mind, but that their edict was a thing innovate and contrary to the treaty and ought to be abolished. Moreover, that no part of the immunity was taken away by the statute, for it provided only that strangers should pay no more custom than Englishmen; and whereas an Englishman lading in a strange bottom should forfeit his lading, a stranger might so lade by paying the old custom. Added that strangers, taking the immunity as general, used to export their merchandise in strange bottoms to the prejudice of the English navy, and that the King, by the said statute, declared how the immunity was to be used. As for the Orientals, reason was that they should be excepted, they having privileges granted by the King's ancestors to lade in their own bottoms. The proclamation of February last prohibited the exportation only of things which might by the treaty of intercourse be restrained. The answer made to the Emperor's ambassador, since the statute was not prejudicial to the treaties and amity, was reasonable.
Further discussion, in which the Flemish commissioners said it was intolerable that men should have to bring their ships away unladen, and that the custom charged was greater than in times past; for in A.D. 1445, not 50 years before the date of the intercourse of A.D. 1495, Flemings paid no more custom than Orientals now do; but this the writers doubted and said they marvelled that the statute was complained of, which contained no innovation, whereas the edict was contrary to the treaties, “both th'entrecourse of merchandises and treaty of peace and amity.” They said that the Emperor would stand to the treaty of peace, but as to the treaties of intercourse, he was neither bound nor would stand to any of them. Replied that they could not tell what the Emperor would stand to, but he was bound to observe both. Further discussion, in which the Flemish said the matter had been sufficiently disputed with the King's ambassadors at Burborugh (fn. 6) beside Calais, that the customs should be moderated and that if the statute were abolished the edict would be abolished also. On the writers replying that they had no charge to treat the moderation of customs or a new intercourse, that there was no reason to abolish the statute, which was in accordance with the treaties, and that they had come thither at the Queen's request, they said they would report to the Queen and confer with them again next day. Spoke then to Dr. Score about Osbron's charge, and he promised the Queen's answer next day.
Next day at 2 p.m. a gentleman came from the duke of Arskott to pray them to be at his house at 3 p.m., which hour they kept. The Commissioners said they had related the whole conference of the day before to the Queen, whose reply was that her subjects merited more favour in England than the Orientals, and that unless the statute were reformed in that behalf she would not revoke the edict; so that there was no need to commune further. Answered that the King would think himself very evil handled, seeing that, at the Queen's request, he sent them to commune upon the things in variance, viz., the edict and the statute, and at their coming new matters were invented which had not been before spoken of. Detail their further answer proving the edict to be contrary to the treaty of Cambray and adding that the King had always shown himself willing to make a new treaty of intercourse. The Commissioners replied that as the writers had no commission to treat further they need no further reason. And so the matter ended.
Then, sitting together at the table, we asked Score if he had the Queen's answer to our bill of particulars. He forthwith took the bill from his pocket and said the Queen willed him to say that as she had divers times granted licence to your Majesty for munitions of war, and that the Emperor had lately made a restraint for the furniture of his own countries, she was unable to grant the whole of your request. Both the French king and the king of Scots had sent for munitions of war, whom she could not satisfy according to their desires; but your Majesty should have as much as could be spared, which she had marked in the margin of our own bill of particulars, which bill Score delivered to us (copy enclosed). We said we marvelled that they should thus weigh so small a request, seeing that, by the order of the intercourse, munitions of war needed no licence, and that licence was given daily to other princes, who had not deserved so much gratuity, and to merchants. They said they had no other answer to make. “Well then, quoth we, if we can have none other we are the more sorry.”
Then the duke of Arskott asked whether Arde were builded. We said “we knew not but by hearsay.” “‘And do ye build at Guynes?’ quo' he. ‘We do,’ quo' we. ‘And shortly shall ye see,’ quo' he, ‘th'Emperor build at Mountorye, and make up there a triangle, for he is purposed to bestow there iije ml guylderns.’” Amongst other communications Score, talking of the evil intreating of the Emperor's subjects in England, said your Majesty's subjects could not look to be so well handled here as they have be. Mons. de Pratt is sent from the Emperor to your Highness. There is great provision here for the marriage of the Duchess of Milan and Marquis of Loreyn, (fn. 7) on Sunday next. Brussels, 3 July. Signed.
ii. The particulars of Osbron's charge, the latter numbers being those the Queen granted, viz., copper, 400,000—0; “seeles d'armes,” 600—30; harnas pour archiers a cheval, 400—0; chauffrons, 300—30; harnas pour pietons, 200—200; lances avec les fers, 600—100; javelines, 200—200; halberts, 300—300.
Pp. 19. Add. Endd.
3 July. 963. James V. to Paul III.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi. 119.
B. M.
Wishes Andrew, abbot of Melrose, to have the bishopric of Henry bp. of Whithorn (Candida Casa) who is lately dead. By grant of the popes, the bps. of Whithorn are deans of the Chapel Royal of Stirling, and have the monastery of Toungland united to the table of the bishopric. Desires also that the said Andrew may put off his Cistercian habit and wear the episcopal; and that James, commendatory of Kelso, may have the abbey of Melrose also, in commendam, paying a pension of 1,000 mks. to the said Andrew “unacum Machlin predii rustici usu usufructuque agri illi Machlin circumjacentis.” Edinburgh, 3 July 1541.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
3 July. 964. The Same to the Same.
Ib.
B. M.
Asks that Dundrenen monastery, void by death of one Henry, commendatory there, may be given to Adam, commendatory of Coldingham, in commendam; and Coldingham (which he will resign) to James's natural son John in perpetuam commendam. In other letters, asks that Melrose monastery may be conferred in commendam upon James, commendatory of Kelso. It will increase the rents and benefit the houses if the Pope will grant to the future administrators (who are usually added to commendatories of the age of the said John and James, the writer's natural sons) power to lease tithes and lands for nineteen years or in perpetuam emphiteosim. Edinburgh, 3 July 1541.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
3 July. 965. James V. to Card. Carpi.
Ib. f. 119b.
B. M.
Desires him to forward the suits contained in the two preceding letters. Wishes, out of the fruits of Coldingham, to be charged with a pension of 400 mks. to one John Maxwell, clk., with power of transferring it. These little monasteries are upon the borders of the realm adjoining English strongholds from which formerly hostile incursions were made, and now doctrines against the Faith creep in. Edinburgh, 3 July 1541.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
3 July. 966. James V. to Ghinucci.
Ib., f. 120.
B. M.
Desires his aid in the above matters of Whithorn bishopric and Dundrenen monastery, void by the death of one Henry. Edinburgh, 3 July 1541.
Lat. Copy, p. 1.
4 July. 967. Sir Cuthbert Ratcliff to the Earl of Westmoreland.
See No. 982 (4).
4 July. 968. The Bp. of Modena to Card. Farnese.
R. O. * * * Was today with Granvelle, who would have him hopeful of the affairs of England. Told him he heard that that King practised with France, but it was unlikely that he would join either with France or the Emperor, as in the discord between these two princes he would expect to be sought by both. The bp. of Winchester is recalled and fears for his life, for persuading the King to return to the Church. The other ambassador, his colleague, has done the contrary.
The 6,000 German foot will embark at Spezzia for Naples. As to the suspicion that the Pope wishes to make a league with these Catholics and France, excluding the Emperor as a Lutheran, the writer said he marvelled that anyone could even imagine such a thing, the Pope having entered this league at the Emperor's instance for the defence of religion. * * * Ratisbon, 4 July 1541.
Italian. Modern transcript from the Vatican, pp. 4.
5 July. 969. Queen Mary of Hungary to Chapuys.
R. O. Gives a detailed account of the discussion between her deputies (the duke of Arschot, the president of the Privy Council, and Messire Cornile Sceperus) and Dr. Carne and Mr. Vaughan, of whose coming Chapuys wrote on the 18th ult. Instructs him thus fully that he may know, if spoken to on the subject, how to answer and to help towards a new treaty of intercourse, which is the only means of arriving at closer amity. The ambassadors also made instance to have some munitions of war, as “selles d'armes,” and the like, and, not being content with the number allowed, would have maintained that by the treaties of intercourse, especially that of 1495, they could lawfully transport them. It was answered that the words of the said intercourse expressly excepted merchandise prohibited, and that having regard to their prohibition, in February last, of wood and victuals, which had always been free, their argument failed. Brussels, 5 July 1541.
French. Copy, pp. 6. Begins: “Mons. l'ambassadeur.”
6 July. 970. Richard Starkey.
Harl MS.
2,115, f. 87b.
B. M.
Petition of Piers Dutton to the Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, to summon and examine one Ric. Starkey, of Halton, who has divers times come to the court held at Halton Castle, having no business there, and carried away and embezzled the King's records.
ii. Answer of Ric. Starkey, that this bill is untrue and only intended to put him to loss. He came to the castle and court as he ought to do suit there, but he denies the rest touching the records.
Copy, p. 1. followed by a note of the receipt of a loan of 10l. by Sir Piers Dutton, 6 July 33 Hen. VIII.
6 July. 971. Sir Ric. Ryche to [Edw. North.]
R. O. “Master Treasurer,” the King intends to repair the buildings and clean the ponds and gardens of his manors of Otford and Knoll, together with his parks of Otford, Knoll and Panters, Kent, and has appointed the bearer Robt. Russell overseer of the work. Please pay to the said Robert, out of the King's treasure, such money as he shall require; and “these our letters,” with the said Robert's acquittance, shall be a sufficient warrant for it. From Saint Bartholome, 6 July. Signed.
P.
1.
6 July. 972. [The Earl of Shrewsbury] to the Earl of Southampton.
Shrewsb. MSS.
P. 77.
Coll. of Arms.
I have received your lordship's letters with warrants for 20 bucks to be taken in the King's grounds where I am officer, and to be conveyed to Hatfeld a day or two before the King arrives there. Will not fail to have them delivered. Hopes that at the King's coming to Nottingham his lordship will visit his poor house at Wynfeld and hunt in Duffeld Frith. Desires credence or his servant Rob. Bradshaw. Sheffield, 6 July.
Draft, pp. 2. Add.
7 July. 973. This Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
210.
Notes that at Enfield, 4 and 5 July, the Council did not sit because the King removed to St. Albans, nor on 6 July, because he removed to Dunstable.
Meeting at Dunstable, 7 July. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Sadler. Business:—Upon advertisement from the Lord Chancellor of the attainder of David Gunston, — Tyrrell, and Robt. Harvy, commissary of Calais, a letter was written to him that Tyrrell should be reprieved, and the other two suffer at London. The King hearing that Francis Haull, whom he sent to Calais with a certain plat, was hurt of a fall on this side Canterbury, a letter was addressed to the Lord Chancellor to send a physician and surgeon to his relief, and to send for the said plat and send a letter to the Deputy of Calais to return it if Hall had sent it on.
7 July. 974. King of Ireland.
Harl. 6074,
f. 1.
B. M.
Note that Henry VIII. was proclaimed king of Ireland at a Parliament at Dublin, 19 June (fn. 8) 33 Hen. VIII., “and so proclaimed in England the vij day of July, being xiij (sic) day at Grenwiche by Garter, principal king of Arms.”
Five lines.
Lansdowne
MS., 255,
f. 171.
B. M.
2. Note that Henry VIII. was proclaimed king of Ireland at a Parliament holden at Dyvclin 19 June 33 Hen. VIII., “and proclaimed in England the vijth day of July the same year at Greenwiche, the King's grace there being, (fn. 9) by Garter principal king of arms.”
ii. List of Irish peers [present at the proclamation in Dublin]. Nearly the same as in No. 935 (3), but with some inaccuracies. The puzzling title “Coranensis” is here read “Ceranensis.” At the end are the names “Episcopus Imolacensis, Donatus Obrene, filius nuper domini Obrene, et doctor Onelan, procurator domini Obrene in dicto parliamento.” (Comp. No. 926).
In a later hand, pp. 2.
7 July. 975. Ireland.
Irish Pat.
Roll,
33 Hen. VIII.,
m. 11.
Licence by the Deputy and Council of Ireland at the suit of lord Bremyngham, of Athnary, for the continuance of the Austin Friars in Downemore under the prior and brethren in secular habit. Signed by St. Leger, Abp. Browne, Chancellor Alen, Luttrell, Bathe, Brabazon and Houthe. 7 July 33 Hen. VIII.
Enrolment. See Morrin's Calendar, p. 84.
7 July. 976. Sir Cuthbert Ratcliff to the Earl of Westmoreland.
See No. 982 (5).
7 July. 977. Parliament of Scotland.
Acts of the
P. of Sc.,
ii. 383.
Holden at Edinburgh 7 July 1541, by Alex. Abbot of Cambuskenneth and eight other commissioners (named).
Case of the widow and children of Robt. Lesly deferred. Prorogued to 6 March next.
8 July. 978. The Council in London to the Council with the King.
R. O. The King's justices and learned counsel have consulted touching the lands of the late lord Dacrez, attainted, as the King's pleasure was; and, upon sight of the grandfather's will, agree that the lands are entailed and ought not to be forfeited, but that the King should have the wardship of the heir, with custody of the lands till he be of full age, because part of the lands are undoubtedly holden in capite… If, therefore, the King wishes offices found according to this title of entail, the order for finding them may be done by lord St. John, master of the Wards. As Mr. Pollard says it cannot appear that lord Dacrez held lands of the King worth more than 400 mks., and the whole possessions are worth almost 1,000l., this title of entail will be very profitable to the King “and avoid the escheats of all others.” Enclose minute of a proclamation concerning holydays and fasting days, delivered by my lord of Canterbury, who says the King ordered it. (fn. 10) It seems very well penned for the purpose. The Chancellor, according to the King's letters, has sent to Francis Hall for the platt, “and also sent him Doctor Crome and Doctor Nicholas, physicians and Vicars, the King's surgeon.” London, 8 July. Signed: T. Cantuarien.: T. Audeley, Chauncelour: E. Hertford: Edmond London.: Thom's Westm.: Andrew Wyndesore: William Seint John: Robert Sowthwell: Rychard Pollard.
Pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1541.
R. O. 2. Later copy of the preceding.
Pp. 2.
8 July. 979. Carne and Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O. After despatching their letters of the 3rd inst., as they thought the Commissioners had not proceeded reasonably, they requested another audience with the Queen; which was promised for the next day, Wednesday, 6th inst., at 8 a.m. Describe the interview, in which they reminded her that the King had, at her request, sent them to discuss his statute and their edict, and that they had proved the edict to be “plain against the treaties” and the statute to contain no innovation, and yet her Commissioners would grant nothing, but desired to treat of a new intercourse, which had not hitherto been spoken of; but that they were sure she would weigh the matter according to justice and have the edict abolished. Told her also, as regards Osbron's charge, that the King had caused the things to be provided and paid for, and that they hoped she would not “stick” for so small a matter, especially as “her gentle grant thereof might further other good purposes, and the contrary hinder.” On both subjects she answered that she would deliberate with her Council.
At 2 p.m. they were sent for again, and the Queen said that the ancient amity between the countries required that nothing should be done to the breach thereof; nevertheless, the King had begun to make certain statutes to the prejudice of the Emperor's subjects of these parts, and unless the King would revoke the same “concerning them,” she would not abolish their edict. Further, she said that as complaints were continually made here of illtreatment in England, she thought a new treaty of intercourse should be made; and that it would not stand with the Emperor's honour to abolish the edict and then sue to the King to make friendly concession in return, as they had suggested. Asked wherein the statute was prejudicial to them (which contained but the immunity and the custom) and begged her to show how it innovated anything. Seigneur Score, standing by, said (lest they should seem to ground their answer upon the treaty or the moderation of the custom) they would have the statute take no effect as regards subjects of these parts. Evidently they had seen that the Commissioners' answer (that the Emperor would not stand to any of the intercourses but required a new to be made and the customs moderated) was not touched upon in the Queen's letters desiring personages to be sent hither. The Queen afterwards declared, though not (as she said) by way of answer, that the Emperor would not stand to the intercourse, and that she thought a new intercourse should be made. As to Osbron's charge, she said the Emperor had made such a restraint that she could not grant more than was declared by her Commissioners; but she would write to the Emperor therein. Replied they marvelled that the King was denied so small a matter, considering that the things were already bought and paid for, especially when merchants, and divers princes, had daily licence for such things. She said it was not so, and prayed them to be content.
Are sorry they cannot bring things to good pass, but surely they (of Flanders) are very stiff and precise in both matters. Bruxelles, 8 July. Signed.
In Vaughan's hand, pp.
7. Add. Sealed. Endd.
ii. “A remembrance of all such things as is bought for the King's Majesty,” viz., copper, 200,000 weight; “demy lances, harness for horsemen,” 400; harness for footmen, 100; staves for demy lances, 300; javelins 200; “shaffernes” for horses, 300; “saddles for battle,” 150.
P. 1. Enclosed in the preceding.
R. O. 2. Another copy of § ii. of the preceding.
P. 1.
8 July. 980. Wotton to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
584.
Has received the King's letters of 20 June; and, when the Duke returns from France, will do as commanded. There is much rejoicing here for the marriage of the Duke, who is much made of in France. The Duke would fain be home again, and has obtained passports of the bishops of Tryer and Luke. The Queen Regent could not answer his request for a passport, because, as she said, the number, time, and country must first be known. The Duke has written again that he has such confidence in the Emperor and her that he trusts he needs no passport, but, as the custom of the princes of Germany is to ask such passports, he would have it for 80 horse and through Luxembourg, and supposes that the men of the French king who accompany him will, by the treaties between the Emperor and France, need no passport. Whether this be granted or not, they trust that the Duke is ere this at Sarabrigge, called in French Sarapont, out of the Emperor's danger; for he intended to go from Paris to Soissons, Mesieres, over the Mase, through the Ardenne and Lorayne, passing the Mosell by Serk and the Sara by Sarapont, between Metz and Trier, and so down the Sara to Tryer, and thence along the Mosell to Covelentz, where the Mosell enters the Rhine and where he reckons himself at home, having only the bp. of Cologne's country to cross. They expect him in his own country within this sevennight. The French king sends 1,000 horse with him; and the old Duchess here has gathered 800, because the Queen has assembled all the bands of the Low Countries at Namur, giving out that it is to receive the duke of Lorraine's son. Here they reckon the French king so powerful that the Emperor will fear to offend him. The Queen of Navarre and the Princess her daughter are to follow shortly, and will be here next month.
The deputies of Geldres, who were summoned to this Diet to hear the Emperor declare his title, are grieved at being kept so long there, but expect that in the end the Emperor “will do somewhat in it, setting his matter forth as odiously against the duke of Cleves as can be devised.” Ove or Buda will be succoured by the Turks unless the states of the Empire assist the king of Hungary, which they will not do unless assured of a general peace. The Emperor has so handled the Landgrave that some begin to suspect him, although assured that he will not offend any prince of the Empire except it be “his great friend of Bruynswyke.” Others “muse as much at tother side, at his sudden departure from the Diet without leavetaking.” The ambassadors of Cleves have no hope of agreement about religion, as the Emperor condescends to nothing till he have referred it to the bp. of Rome, and the Protestants till they have referred it to their apostle, Dr. Martyn. Cleves, 8 July 1541.
Hol., pp. 4. Add. Endd.
8 July. 981. Richard Pate.
Vatican MS. Note that in Consistory 8 July 1541 the Pope provided Ric. Pate. archdeacon of Lincoln, to the church of Worcester, void by the death of Cardinal Ghinucci.
Lat. From a modern transcript in R. O.
9 July. 982. Ralph earl of Westmoreland to the Council.
Add. MS.,
32,646, f. 171.
B. M.
Hamilton
Papers,
No. 72.
Encloses copies of letters received from Sir Cuthbert Radclyff, Warden of the Middle March, and the captain of Berwick, Warden of the East March. Radelyff's, of 24 June, touching the fray at Corbreg, was sent on, by his chaplain who brought it, to the lord President and Council here in the North. Brancepeth, 9 July. Signed.
P.
1. Add. Endd.
Ib. 2. “The copy of Sir Cuthbert Ratcliffe's letter sent unto my lord.”
Since being with him, has sent into Scotland and received promise from the Warden of a meeting on Wednesday next, to make redress for Lyddysdale. Cannot hear that the Scots intend any business; but they intend to muster.
Yesterday, the fair day of Corbregge, the inhabitants of Tynedale and Riddesdale made a great fray on Wm. Carnaby, and have sore hurt him, Wm. Lyle, Gilbert Elryngton, and others, and robbed many merchants. Fears this will stop justice for Liddisdale. Apparently “they intend their old fashions again.” Dylstoun, 24 June.
P. 1.
Ib. 3. “The copy of Sir Wm. Eurez letter sent to my lord.”
Has received his of 30 June. On the 25th had one from the King, dated Greenwich 12th June, to like effect. Can see no appearance of any stirring in Scotland. Berwick, 1 July.
P. 1.
Ib. 4. “The copy of a letter sent to my lord from Sir Cuthbert Ratclif.”
Has received his of 30 June, asking, by the King's order, whether there is any likelihood of the Scots intending an enterprise against Berwick or other parts. Has had one in Scotland and can hear of no business intended. Dande Carre, Warden of the Middle Marches, “shotte” the last meeting and is ridden to Edinburgh, promising to meet next Wednesday at the Mayden Cross. The chief lords of Scotland are in Council at Edinburgh. They have “shotte” the day of trew on the East Borders, 20 days; fears they will do the like with this. If they do, will send straight to the king of Scots and complain of the delay. Doubtless he has heard how the Liddisdale men, lately, at Cary Cottes, robbed and killed a man. Cartyngtoun, 4 July.
P. 1.
Ib. 5. “The copy of Sir Cuthbert Ratcliffe's letter sent to my Lord.”
Has spoken with his servant who was in Scotland, and with Scottishmen; but can hear of no business intended against England. A French ambassador is at Edinburgh, and the meeting of the lords there was to answer him. The king of Scotland sends an ambassador by sea to the French king, either a temporal lord or a bishop. Describes how his and the Scotch warden's deputies met on Wednesday last and arranged a meeting for Monday week and delivery of pledges. Has sent a Scottishman of his acquaintance to Edinburgh, who will report to him at Alnwick on Saturday or Sunday next. Cartyngton, 7 July.
P. 1.
9 July. 983. James V. to Henry VIII.
Add. MS.,
32,646, f. 170.
B. M.
Hamilton
Papers,
No. 71.
Credence for Mr. Thomas Bellenden, director of his Chancellary, whom he now sends because he has heard that things occur which may be to the hurt of the peace and amity between them. Edinburgh, 9 July 28 James V. Signed.
Pp.
2. Add. Endd.
Royal MS.
18 B. vi.,
120b.
B. M.
St. P., v. 190.
2. Contemporary copy of the preceding, dated Edinburgh “ye tent day of Julii,” 28 James V.
P. 1.
9 July. 984. The Marquis del Gasto to Charles V.
Add. MS.,
28,593, f. 15.
B. M.
Hearing of the capture of Cesare Fragoso and Rincon, reports the circumstances as related to him, and explains that it was not by his order, or of any of the Emperor's ministers in Italy. Has sent an express messenger to Langeais, who has also sent Capt. Termes here about the matter. Milan, 7 July 1541.
P.S. added on the return of Count Francesco de Landrian, who was sent express to Langeais. Closed, 9 July.
Spanish. Modern copy, pp. 7. See Spanish Calendar, VI. i., Nos. 169, 170.
10 July. 985. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
211.
Notes that at Dunstable, 8 July, the Council did not sit because the King removed to Ampthill, nor did it sit at Ampthill 9 July.
Meeting at Ampthill, 10 July. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Sadler. Business:—A letter, under Stamp, to the Chancellor of Augmentations to admit — Bascarvile, servant to the bp. of Ely, to be an almsman at Ely.
10 July. 986. Wallop to Henry VIII.
R. O. Wrote last, 29 June, of his meeting with Mons. de Beez, Mons. Cannye, Mons. Torsey, lieutenant of Arde, and St. Chevall, captain there, and their protest that they did not intend mowing the Couswade. For more assurance, sent out espials, and learnt that, at Arde, De Beez, before departing, commanded that none should be so hardy to mow the grass of the Couswade, or cut turf or make ways there, and further, that their “scultt” should not by night approach the English Pale nor their footmen take anything there without paying for it, in short, that no cause for complaint should be given to Wallop. Ninety masons have been discharged from Arde, as more meet for harvest work. Had they intended to mow the Couswade those men would have been “set awork” there, for now is the time.
The workmen here are diligent and contented. Mr. Rous, the treasurer, keeps them well supplied with victuals, which are daily brought in by Picards and other “circumvoisins.” Will not write of the works, as Rogers, the King's mason, is going over. Guysnez, 10 July. Signed.
Pp.
2. Add. Endd.
10 July. 987. James V. to Henry VIII.
See No. 983 (2).

Footnotes

1 In July 1540.
2 Probably Mantell.
3 According to G. E. C.'s Peerage his mother was Jane, daughter of Edward Sutton lord Dudley.
4 John Cheyney. See No. 931.
5 Stanislaus of Astorogh. See No. 992.
6 In the year 1532.
7 Meaning the Marquis de Pont à Moussor.
8 See No. 926.
9 The King was, however, not at Greenwich, but at Dunstable on that day.
10 See No. 1027 note.