Henry VIII
August 1541, 1-10


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'Henry VIII: August 1541, 1-10', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 16: 1540-1541 (1898), pp. 506-516. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76253 Date accessed: 16 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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August 1541, 1–10

1 Aug. 1057. The Privy Council.
P. C. P., vii.
Meeting at Loddington, 1 Aug. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. Business:—Complaint (described) of the inhabitants of Brigstock against Jas. Hyde, keeper of Fermyng Woods, parcel of Rockingham Forest, under Sir John St. John, referred to further examination at Grymsthorp.
1 Aug. 1058. The Council with the King to the Council in London.
R. O.
St. P., i. 665.
John Osburne, who provided 200,000 weight of copper, with other things, for the King in the Low Parts, but cannot get leave to convey them hither, has signified that, even now, the king of Portugal has shipped thence 1,400,000 weight of copper and the French king bargained at Antwerp for 1,000,000 weight. Direct them to call the Emperor's ambassador and point out the unfriendly appearance of the proceedings in Flanders, in refusing to the King the liberty which, by the treaty of intercourse, every merchant has, and remind him that Grandevele affirmed that all the treaties were held valid and promised to write to them of Flanders to proceed friendly. If the Ambassador ask if any answer is made to the suit of the king of the Romans for aid against the Turk, they shall answer that they cannot tell, but that the doings in Flanders are no means either to get new aids or continue old friendships.
In the last letters “received … other things … of such lands as his Majesty shall give to any of the Wild Irish” (copy herewith, which will show what is written by the Deputy and Council of Ireland). In this the King desires their opinion on three points, viz.:—1. Whether the giving of the lands would only encourage them to rebel again? 2. Whether they might hereafter allege these grants to show th[at quarrels were picked with them without cause]? 3. What hindrance it would be if the King or his heirs should enterprise a general extirpation of those traitors?
The King has added a word or two to the act touching his style, for the plain setting forth of his old right and inheritance, as appears by the copy herewith. The lord Chancellor is to have it written and sealed, and sent with the next despatch into Ireland to be passed.
Draft corrected by Wriothesley, pp. 11. Mutilated. Endd.: Minute to the Privy Council at London, 1 Aug. 1541.
1 Aug. 1059. The late Abbot of Crowland.
R. O. Depositions headed 1 Aug. 33 Hen. VIII., relating to stock at the manor of Langtoffte, which John Brygges, late abbot of Crowland, who occupied the manor from the dissolution of the abbey until Michaelmas last, caused to be carried to Uffyngton, where he dwelt, and which, since his death, has come to the hands of one Wm. Brown.
Large paper, p. 1.
ii. On the back, in Sir Ric. Riche's hand.—A note of a recognisance, dated 8 … 33 Hen. VIII., by Sir Thos. Grenham, clk., Thos. Whytwell, and John Doyle, binding them to appear before the Council of Augmentations at Michaelmas next.
1 Aug. 1060. Card. Pole to the Cardinal of Burgos.
Poli Epp.,
iii. 35.
That the more remote any natural remedy the nearer is the aid of God, he has felt specially in this death of his mother; for whom he would have grieved had she died in the course of nature, but when she met with such a violent death at the hands of him whom it least became (who thus slew the cousin of his own mother and her whom, for the piety in which she had grown old, he once venerated no less than his mother) his consolation was that he had nothing left in nature to console him. The manner of death might be thought base, but all who knew her will impute the baseness to him who slew her; for it cannot be base to suffer as Christ himself, Apostles, Martyrs, Virgins suffered, but to act as the Herods, Neros, and Caligulas did, although their guilt is exceded by that of this man who, with much less show of justice, has slain a most innocent woman allied to him in blood, aged and growing feeble, but renowned for her virtue. Will never fear to call himself the son of a martyr (which is more than any royal birth). Thanks him, as an orphan, for his sympathetic letters. Capranica, cal. Aug. 1541.
2 Aug. 1061. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Colyweston, 2 Aug. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley. No business recorded.
2 Aug. 1062. Eustace Chapuys to the Privy Council.
R. O. I send by bearer the letters which the Queen Regent in Flanders has last written to me about the affair of Dunkarke, which no doubt the King will regard, considering the grant he has already made, and that the Queen has allowed the transport of a good part of the harness and munitions he required. Begs their intercession with the King in this and also in the affair which the king of the Romans wrote of. Popeler, 2 Aug. 1541. Signed.
French, p.
1. Sealed. Add.
4 Aug. 1063. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Note that at Collyweston, 3 Aug., the Council did not sit.
Meeting at Collyweston, 4 Aug. Present: Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Recognisance (cited) of Wm. Poyner, of Livingstone, Ntht., gentleman, not to practise as an attorney or counsellor in the law without first obtaining the King's licence.
4 Aug. 1064. Carne and Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O. On the 22nd ult., received his letters of the 19th, and next day sued for audience, which was promised for the following day, Sunday, 24th ult., at 4 p.m. At that audience, declared the charge given by the King's letters, in listening to which the Queen often altered her countenance and gesture, and, in the end, asked for it in writing to send to the Emperor. Besought her rather, to avoid the delay that sending so far would entail, that they might declare it to her and her Council; and with this she was content. Next day, Monday, at 8 a.m., she sent the secretary of the Council for them, with whom they went to Court, and found her with the duke of Arskott, the president of the Council, the bps. of Palermo and Ughtred, the countie Bure, the countie Sant Pie, Mons. Molenboys, the chancellor of the Order, Skipperus, and others of her Council. Declared their charge. She said she would make answer for her doings here and that the Emperor would answer that which concerned him. She then went to commune with her Council.
Two hours later, she sent Score, the president of the Council, Nigry, the chancellor of the Order, and Skipperus to ask for the declaration in writing, in order to avoid errors on either side, and because she thought that they had not reported to the King the answer made to them in the former conference. Answered that they were sure they had declared their whole charge, and had truly reported the answer, but had no commission to give it in writing; and they asked wherein the Queen thought they had misreported. Next day the Queen went a hunting and nothing was done. On the Wednesday she went to Hever, a house of the duke of Arskott's beside Loveyn, to meet the duke of Barr, and the duchess of Milan, his wife, who had been abroad to see the country. She tarried there till Sunday afternoon next. The said Wednesday she sent Score and the other two to ask again for the declaration in writing, because, she said, they declared more to her the first day than they did before the Council. Detail a long altercation in which the writers denied having “declared lightness to be in the Emperor and the Queen,” and showed the King's letters and read them verbatim in French. The Flemings thought the King's request for answer to the articles particularly, by way of interrogatory, as they said, was no way to come to a friendly conclusion, and that they would not take the intercourse as perpetual. The writers replied that by Grandvele's words they ought so to take it; but they said Grandvele spake only of the treaties of peace and amity, and that the King's statute would “clean take away from the subjects of these parties th'occupying of the sea.” Told them then how unkindly the things the King had provided here were detained, for where the Emperor had bought 10,000 quintals of copper, and the king of Portugal 14,000 quintals, and the merchants of Antwerp had 100,000 mks. worth yet unsold, the King could not have licence for 4,000 quintals, and must needs take it unkindly, seeing that the kings of France, Scotland, and Portugal had such licence. They replied, “Ye would have from us armour and we can have no wood from you”; to which the writers said that if the King was friendly used he would friendly use them.
The Monday next, pressed for answer, which was made next day by the president of the Council, chancellor of the Order and Skipperus, who were sent to them for the purpose, and was that the Queen again desired the copy of their charge in writing. Replied that they would deliberate, and make answer in the afternoon. Considered that the request was made not for instruction but for some other purpose, and so dared not grant it. In the afternoon they went to the President's house, and found there the chancellor of the Order with him. Said that, although their instructions did not expressly inhibit the giving of their charge in writing, they prescribed how the charge was to be used, both to the Queen and Council; also, that as they (the Flemings) said they understood the articles well enough, no doubt they could answer. Desired, therefore, either to have the abolition of the edict and the licence, or else to have answer in specialty to the articles. They answered that the Queen and her Council thought it needless to answer the articles, seeing that the King did not answer their requests—meaning (apparently) for reformation of the statute and the grant of wood and other things they sued for licence to transport hither; and that the Queen would send a post to the Emperor's ambassador, Chapuys, to show her mind further. Think they will not make any other answer here, as they trust to obtain more by treating in England.
(fn. 1) On the 30th ult., a captain of the Emperor's, in Friselond, named Burmany, asked to speak with them, and said the French king had retained the grave of Emden and the countie of Odenburghe at 200 crs. a year each, that they and the duke of Clevys should take up 30,000 men about Friselond, to be ready to go (as he thought) against England; and the captain offered, if the King would give him like provision of 200 crs., that he would keep 4,000 or 5,000 men ready at his call, with vessels to convey them by sea. Thanked him, and said that they knew of no war, and the King had always 300,000 or 400,000 of his own subjects ready, fully armed, to answer all comers, but that they would advertise the King. Have not otherwise heard of men being gathered by the French or any other, and think he only came to prove whether the King intended war.
(fn. 1) The Emperor left Ratisbone for Italy on the 24th ult., and goes with 10,000 lance knechts and 8,000 Spaniards to Argill, a town in Barbary. An ambassador of the French king, going towards the Turk, has been slain in Italy, for which cause the French king has arrested the Emperor's ambassador. (fn. 2) The French king has 10,000 Suyces ready. Bruxelles, 4 Aug. Signed.
13. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1541.
4 & 5 Aug. 1065. Bishopric of Chester.
See Grants in August, Nos. 4, 5, 6.
Harl. MS.
1,994, f. 70.
B. M.
Later copy of Henry VIII.'s Charter to the Cathedral. (Grants in August, No. 4.)
This copy, which seems to have been very inaccurately made in the first instance from the original patent and afterwards corrected from the enrolment, bears at the end this note: “Exhibit' et regestrat' in visit' regia per me Edwardum Plankney.—E(flourish) P.—1547. Per Edwardum. Aldersey.”
Large paper, pp. 22.
Harl. MS.
2,071, f. 11b.
B. M.
2. Modern copy of the same, dated Walden, 5 Aug. 33 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 5. With a drawing of the Great Seal attached. From Randle Holme's Collections for the Abbey and Bishopric of Chester.
Ib. f. 26. 3. A modern copy of the grant of temporalities of the same date. (Grants in August, No. 5.)
Pp. 7. With pen and ink drawing at the end of the two sides of the fragment of the Great Seal attached.
Ib. f. 136. 4. Modern copy of statutes given by Henry VIII. to the cathedral church of St. Mary of Chester at its foundation.
Lat., pp. 23.
Harl. 2, 103,
f. 138.
B. M.
5. English translation of § 4.
Pp. 24.
5 Aug. 1066. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Collyweston, 5 Aug. Present: Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—A contention having arisen between the sheriff of Northamptonshire, the alderman of Stamford, and the bailiff of the liberties of Peterborough, with reference to the King's intended progress through Stamford, towards York, a provisional order (detailed) is made, which is for this time only, and shall not prejudice any rights of the parties.
R. O. 2. Order taken touching a contention which has arisen between the sheriff of Northamptonshire, the alderman of Stanforde and the bailiff of the liberties of Peterborough, about carrying a white rod or mace before the King in his intended passing through Stanforde on his progress to York.
Draft, corrected by Wriothesley, pp. 5. Very faded and illegible.
5 Aug. 1067. Henry VIII. to King Ferdinand.
R. O. Has received his letters through the Emperor's ambassador here, and both by the letters of the said ambassador and by those of his own ambassadors with the Emperor, is informed of Ferdinand's request. Has ordered his said ambassadors to reply, and desires credence for them. Colleweston, 5 Aug. 1541.
French. Copy, p. 1. Endd.: Le double dune lettre escripte au roy d'Hungarie.
5 Aug. 1068. The Council with the King to Chapuys.
R. O. By bearer we received your letters of 2 Aug., and having seen the letters and petition therewith from them of Dunquerq, sent to you by the queen of Hungary, have shown the whole to the King. His answer is that since they arrest the things he had provided for his own use, which by the treaties might be brought out of the Low Countries, he has good reason to arrest wood and other things which no treaty constrains him to deliver, and that he will not be wrongfully forced to do anything whatever. We beg you to see that this affair does not hinder the other matters, which are of greater importance (ne donne poynt empeschement aux aultres bons propos de plus grande consequence); for, as to your writing that the Queen has just given a very kind licence, we assure you, the demand not having been any great thing, the licence “est si trescourte q'en mal plustost le dobvroit ung interpreter q'aultrement,” as doubtless the King's Council there has more amply informed you. Colleweston, 5 Aug. 1541.
French. Copy, p. 1. Slightly mutilated. Endd.: Le double dune lettre escripte a lambassadeur de l'Empereur.
5 Aug. 1069. Sir Ric. Ryche to Geo. Gyfford.
R. O. Geo. Tresham, Griffith Salisbury, and others, have petitioned the King for the defacing of one of two chapels in Newton, appropriate to the late monastery of Pipwell, alleging that one might serve a greater multitude than is within the manor. Desires him to view the chapel, learn the tenants' minds, value the stone, timber, lead and bells, and certify what loss might ensue to the King in granting the petition. Colleweston, 5 Aug. 33 Hen. VIII. Signed.
1. Add.
5 Aug. 1070. Queen Mary of Hungary to Chapuys.
R. O.
St. P., viii.
By her last letters of the 5th. ult., he will have heard what passed between the English ambassadors and her deputies up to that day. Afterwards, having received letters from their King, the ambassadors declared to her that the King found she used good words, but that the effect did not correspond, and desired to know in what the statute of England infringed the treaties, and [to say] that if the edict, which forbade lading in English ships, was made here for the profit of the subjects, that profit was not so important as the treaties between the princes. 2. That the privilege granted to English ships and to the Easterlings did not prejudice the subjects of the Low Countries. 3. That the King was surprised at their maintaining that the Emperor was not bound to the treaties of intercourse, as Grandvelle had recently admitted he was, for, if so, the Emperor was very changeable and light. 4. That whereas they were told it would not be to the Emperor's honour to revoke the edict, the King thought it would be only honourable to revoke what could not reasonably be maintained, and that it would be as honourable to the Emperor to ask of the King what seemed for the benefit of his subjects, as for the King to ask of the Emperor revocation of the edict. 5. That the King was surprised at the detention of the copper and other munitions he had bought, and desired order to be given that there should be no hindrance in future, which might occasion such inconvenience as might not easily be remedied.
As this declaration was made in the absence of her Council she asked for it in writing; which they refused, but offered to repeat it before the Council. They did so next day; but in the third article they said the King thought the argument proceeded not from the Emperor and Queen, and said nothing about the Emperor being changeable or light. Replied that she would answer that which touched her and was glad they had left out that which touched the Emperor, knowing thereby that it had not proceeded from the King. Repeated this twice, but they made no answer; and as they afterwards, to some of her Council, denied saying the Emperor was changeable and light, and as it was to be suspected that they had not truly written to their King the offers she made at the preceding communications, she asked for their declaration in writing, which they persistently refused to give.
Directs him, therefore, to go to the King and present the letters of credence herewith, and say that, since the Emperor, her brother, committed the government of the Low Countries to her, she has studied to preserve friendship with England, and yet his ambassadors have declared, from him, that she used good words but the effect did not correspond; also that, when she found the ambassadors vary in their proposition, she asked for it in writing, which they declined to give, contrary to custom in such cases. She, therefore, desires to declare her friendly inclination as she has done to his ambassadors in offering to treat for a new intercourse, and requires him to order his ambassadors to proceed by writing. Thinks the King cannot have heard that she offered, if he would moderate his statute as regards her subjects, to revoke the edict, or treat for a new intercourse, to which offers the ambassadors made no reply. If the King resents the allegation that the Emperor is not bound to observe the intercourse, Chapuys can point out that in the year '32, after long discussion between his ambassadors and her deputies, it was declared on the Emperor's part that he was not obliged to observe the intercourse, but it was added that this was not to prejudice the treaties of amity and alliance, which were to be fully observed as Grantvelle declared to his ambassador.
If the King mention the detention of his munitions, Chapuys shall say that, since the prohibition in England of the export of wood and victuals, her subjects would think it very strange if she allowed munitions of war, merchandise which is always prohibited, to be carried to England.
Thanks him for news in his letters of the 2nd, 16th, and 25th ult. Bruxelles, 5 Aug. 1541.
French. Copy, pp. 5.
R. O. 2. Copy of the latter half of the preceding letter comprising the last three paragraphs.
French, pp. 3. Headed: Copie de la credence a l'ambassadeur de part de la Royne.
R. O. 3. Another copy similar to § 2, with the last paragraph cancelled.
French, pp. 3. Headed: Copie de la credence, &c.
6 Aug. 1071. The Council with the King to Carne and Vaughan.
R. O. The Emperor's ambassador lately sent his secretary to Colyweston with certain men of Dunkirk, and a letter of his to us of the Council, and of the Regent to him, and a supplication to her by them of Dunkirk “for th'obtaining of wood for the drying of their herring.” Answer was made that, the King's things provided there for his own use being unkindly restrained, contrary to the intercourse, the King might well restrain commodities which they could not claim by the treaties, and they should have neither it nor ought else which the King might justly restrain unless he found better correspondence on that side. This was also written to the ambassador. Where the Regent, writing to the ambassador, seems to make much of the parcels of the King's things which she granted, it was answered that the whole was nothing, and the grant of part was rather to be taken ill than otherwise, considering that the King of Portugal and all others have daily from them great quantities of the same things. This the King commands us to signify that you “may know his proceedin[gs in] that behalf.”
Draft, in Wriothesley's hand, p. 1. Endd.: “Minute to Sir Edward Carne and Mr. Vaughan vjo Augusti 1541.”
6 Aug. 1072. O'Donell.
R. O.
St. P., iii.
Submission of O'Donell made at Cavan, 6 Aug. 33 Hen. VIII., by indenture with the lord Deputy and Council. Nine articles.
Lat. Copy, pp. 2. Endd.: “The copy of th'indenture between the Deputy of Ireland and O'Doneyl.
Lamb. MS.
603, p. 36.
2. Another copy.
Lat., pp. 2. See Carew Calendar, No. 159.
Ib., p. 103. 3. Another copy.
Lat., pp. 2.
6 Aug. 1073. The Nuncio in France to [Card. Farnese.]
R. O. Conversation held the 30th ult. with the Queen of Navarre touching the King's distrust of the duke of Guise and confidence in the duke of Cleves. Asked her how they were assured of the King of England, if the Emperor moved war upon them. She answered that the Emperor and he had quarrelled because the Emperor wished to have the Princess for wife, and to have her as legitimate, which the King would not grant; so that the two Kings are now on good terms, and the English ambassador with the Emperor is in his King's disgrace and will sooner go to His Holiness at Rome than return to England. Even if that King wished to do anything, the frontiers are fortified, and 100,000 crs. and 6,000 lanceknights sent to Scotland would give him enough to do to defend himself, especially considering the growing distrust of his own subjects. She said that, three days ago, the King of Scotland sent a gentleman to report that the King of England had sent to make a league with him, but he had answered that he could do nothing without the French king; so now the King of England entertains the Scots (costoro) as best he can. If affairs between the Emperor and French king had not been as they are I would have renewed the practice of the enterprise against England. She said the Cardinal of Scotland would be here tomorrow or the day after, going towards Rome, and that when she had spoken with him she would tell me everything.
Italian. Modern extract from a Vatican MS., pp. 2., headed: Il nuntio di Francia di 6 de Agosto 1541.
7 Aug. 1074. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meetings at Grimsthorp, 6 and 7 Aug. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
7 Aug. 1075. Lord Maltravers and Others to Henry VIII.
R. O. Received his commandment, concerning the Mayn [Brook], by Wm. Marche, whom they requested to reduce the same to articles, which, together with their opinions on the same, they here enclose. [Calais, 7 Aug.]. Signed: H. Mawtravers: [John] Wallo[p]: Edwarde [Wotton]: Rychard Lee: Anth. [Rous].
P. 1. Mutilated. Add. Endd.: The deputy of Calays, Mr. Wallop, Mr. Wotton, Ric. Lee and Ant. Rous, 7 Aug. 1541, with sundry articles delivered to them by credit of Marche's report.
R. O. 2. “Th'articles [dely]vered from your Majesty by c[redit] of Marche's report,” viz., 1. “First at Boyte Hakes one bulwark, at [Parkins] Bridge one other with a sluice, against the [Plasshe] of Ard one with a sluice, the dikes to [be] fifty footes broad.” 2. The Synge Dyke to be widened that boats may meet in it. 3. The Great River that leads to Guisnes to be widened 20 foot, etc. (mutilated). 4. “My lord Depu[ty], Mr. [Wallo]p, Mr. The[saurer], Richard Lee and A[n]thonie Rouse” to [report upon] these things with speed.
“Our answers to th[ese articles].
The three bulwarks could not be better placed, unless, for reasons which Rogers can declare, the [third] should “stand upon the point of [Ba]lingham Common next to Ard Plasshe.” That at Parkins bridge should be set nearer the Couswade “upon the point of the Singe Dyke which hath his intercourse with the Hollowehed, which point is from Parkins bridge 900 foot.” There is no “place where the water of the Hallowehed may be taken away from your purposes either by th'Emperor or the French king but only between th'Inglisshe Strete and the foot of t[he] hill t[ow]erdes Mownt Ore, which are not di[stant from each other] thre quartres of a mile, of which pl[ace Roger]s can also more at large advertise [your Majesty].” For the purposes of the sluices a dyke should be cast from the proposed bulwark next Balingham “overthwart a part of Balinghames Common,” casting the bank of the same westward. Describe their surveys of the Mayne Brooke, and approve of the enlarging of Singe Dyke and the great [river] leading from St. Peter's. “Touching the iiijth ar[ticle] … Marche; for that he [could no]t suff[iciently] instruct hus in yor [H]ig[ne]ss[es] mea[ning] therin, we have (though [no]t certe[n]) as we could gather, declared accordin[gly] our opinions to Rogers.” Signed: II. Mawtravers: [John Wallop?]: Edwarde Wotton: Rychar[d Lee]: A[nth. Rous].
Mutilated, pp. 3.
7 Aug. 1076. Lord Maltravers to Henry VIII.
R. O. The Council wrote to him, 13 July, that the King was informed that Dublyn Bulwark was already defensible, and, if that were so, required the workmen there to be removed to Guisnes. Finding it to be “nothing less than was reported,” was bold to retain some of the workmen to complete the bulwark, which will be finished before the end of September, and sent the rest to Guisnes, where the fortifications shall likewise be finished by the end of October; to advance which, he will send workmen hence as they may be spared. Calais, 7 Aug. 33 Hen. VIII. Signed.
1. Add. Endd.
9 Aug. 1077. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Note that at Grimsthorp, 8 Aug., the Council did not sit.
Meeting at Sleaford, 9 Aug. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Durham, Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
9 Aug. 1078. Francis I. to Marillac.
R. O.
Kaulek, 325.
(Almost the
whole text.)
Has received his letter of the 29th ult., as to the artifices used by the Emperor's ministers to persuade the English that the Emperor and Francis are about to meet and make some new treaty and alliance, and the reports they afterwards spread about the duke of Cleves, Francis's nephew. These things are false, as his letters about the taking of the Sieurs Cesar Fregose and Rainczon prove. Cannot deny that he has been sought by the Queen of Hungary and others for an interview with the Emperor, but, knowing that it was only to favour the Emperor's affairs and make his own friends suspicious, he declined. Had he been willing to grant it, he would first have asked the King of England's advice. Hearing that the Emperor goes down into Italy with 6,000 or 7,000 lansquenets, has lately sent Maréchal d'Annebault into Piedmont and, after him, a good number of men of arms and footmen. Is also putting ready 10,000 Swiss. Has letters from Ratisbon of the 23rd ult. relating that the Emperor would leave for Italy on the 26th, without conclusion [taken], especially touching the aid he demanded against Francis's nephew of Cleves. Also that M. de Savoye had made a declaration (proposition) to the Diet against Francis; whereupon his advocate Remon declared his rights to the satisfaction of the Diet. Will shortly send a copy that he may inform the King of England. Countersigned: Bochetel.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 3. Headed: 9 Aug. 1541.
2. Contemporary (?) copy of the preceding. Dated 9 Aug., at the Park les Moulins.
Spanish Calendar, VI. i., No. 176.
10 Aug. 1079. The Privy Council.
P.C.P., vii.
Meeting at Lincoln 10 Aug. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
10 Aug. 1080. Chapuys to the Queen of Hungary.
VI. i., No.
On receipt of her letter of the 17th ult. touching the Dunkirk affair, sent one of his men with the deputations from that town to Greenwich that they might plead their case before the Privy Council, but they got no other answer than that contained in the enclosed memorandum, the Councillors making a long speech to my man as they did next day to me, complaining that in the Low Countries the subjects of Portugal and France and Scotland were allowed to export as much copper as they chose while the English were forbidden. Not one of these Kings, they said, would have tolerated such injury, which was against the treaties; and it would encourage those who wished to see the improving relations between the Emperor and their master cooled. If the King wished for copper he could get it from Hamburg or Lubeck. Answered at great length, declaring the Queen was as well inclined to the King as ever, and had wished to make a new treaty of commerce for the benefit of both countries, and, but for certain considerations, would have granted the English free trade in copper as long as they wished, nay, would make the King a present of more than he asked for; but she was not absolute sovereign of Flanders, and even if she were the inhabitants were very jealous of their liberties. Moreover, they might say that she had not only favoured the English more than before, but had allowed them to take out of the country prohibited goods, such as ordnance and ammunition, of which an immense quantity had, to Chapuys's knowledge, reached England of late years, while they had been making laws to the detriment of the Low Countries. During the government of the lady Margaret they had been by no means so well treated there, nor were the Emperor's subjects so much oppressed in England as now, and they would probably blame the Queen somewhat, as having, perhaps, persuaded the Emperor's Council (fn. 3) to defer the said treaty till Chapuys was informed of the claims put forward by the Flemings. Insisted after this on the need of a fresh commercial treaty. The Councillors replied that Chapuys ought to know the King's nature, who did not like to be driven, and that when the Queen had conceded the release of the copper and ammunition he had bought in the Low Countries the rest would be settled to her satisfaction. They then begged him to write for the release of the goods, which Chapuys thinks should be conceded as the quantity of copper seized is not large and the King can get it elsewhere, and moreover, the Low Countries are not at present in want of it. It would be politic besides; for the Queen's measures having shown them that we are not afraid of them, this concession will please them “and make them less sensible to the effects of the Navigation edict promulgated in that country, of which, though I know that they feel it immensely, they have not yet said a word of complaint to me.”
Although the letter Chapuys wrote to these Privy Councillors bore chiefly on the answer this King ought to make to Ferdinand's application for help against the Turk, and his secretary has since pressed them on the point, not a word was said about it in their reply (copy enclosed) and they only told his secretary that the King had received Ferdinand's letter and written to his ambassador on the subject. A few days ago the French ambassador, on receipt of letters, went in haste to the King. Will find out his business.
Forgot to say that he has received no intimation of the reasons why this King's deputies did not attend the dinner given on the marriage of the duchess of Bar, but believes it was to show that they do not consider her marriage lawful, pretending that the Marquis de Pont could not marry any one but Anne of Cleves, as the Marquis (sic) himself said to me. London, 10 Aug. 1541.
Original at Vienna, partly in cipher.
[10 Aug.] 1081. Card. Pole to Card. S. Marcelli. (fn. 4)
Poli Epp.,
iii. 74.
Was much comforted in his great affliction by the Cardinal's letters of the 27 July “Prati datas,” which he received at Capranica, 10 Aug. The Cardinal's advice that he should pray God for the conversion of the doer of this wickedness is worthy of his office of Penitentiary. Will do so, although it is almost to be feared that he is past the benefit of prayer. If his own slaughter would bring about the man's conversion would wish it done forthwith. A few days ago met at Bagnarea the marchioness of Pescara, who seems raised up by God in the place of the mother he has lost. Capranica.
1082. Card. Pole to the Marchioness of Piscaria.
Poli Epp.,
iii. 77.
Thanking her at some length for her letters of consolation. Latin.
1083. Card. Pole to —.
Poli Epp.,
iii. 76.
Thanks for letters of condolence upon the death of his mother. Capranica.
Latin. Addressed as “Rev. D. V.”


1 These two last paragraphs are printed in St. P., viii. 593.
2 See No. 1042.
3 The text apparently ought to have read: “laquelle a ceste occasion aura peutestre persuadé au Conseil.”
4 Not the Card. Marcellus [Cervini] as in Venetian Calendar V. No. 273. See No. 1107.