Henry VIII
September 1541, 11-20

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'Henry VIII: September 1541, 11-20', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 16: 1540-1541 (1898), pp. 547-553. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=76257 Date accessed: 19 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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September 1541, 11–20

11 Sept. 1172. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
241.
Note that, at Leconfield, 10 Sept. the Council did not sit.
Meeting at Hull, 11 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
12 Sept. 1173. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
242.
Meeting at Hull, 12 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—The mayor and aldermen of Hull commanded to pay to Ric. Saull, of Hull, the value of certain munitions of war which they had from him in the commotion time (fn. 1) and had never restored.
12 Sept. 1174. Lord Maltravers and Others to the Council with the King.
R. O. Have received the King's letters dated Ca[wood], 5th inst. Protest that the fact that certain recent letters from them have been only signed by the Deputy, Treasurer, and Comptroller was not due to the negligence of duty by the rest, nor to a want of agreement among them. Will diligently observe the other points contained in the King's letters. Calais, 12 Sept. 1541. Signed: H. Mawtravers, John Wallop, Thomas Ponynges, Edward Bray, Edw[ard Wotton], G. Carew, Edward Ryngeley, Antony Knyve[t], * * (one or two signatures lost), Willi[am Sympson].
Much mutilated. Pp. 3. Add. Endd.: The Deputy and Council at Calais to the Council here.
12 Sept. 1175. Sir Edw. Wotton to the Council with the King.
R. O. A very mutilated letter enclosing a statement, also mutilated, of the money he has received and paid to the soldiers (who are paid up to 6 April 32 Hen. VIII.) and workmen at Calais. With help of money received from Mr. Grostwyk, the labourers at D[ublin] Bulwark, and Ruysheba[nk] are paid for the month ending 13 Aug., and can be paid for the month ended 10 Sept. Begs them to provide him with money for next payment. Calais, 12 Sept. 1541.
Hol. pp. 3. Add. Endd.
13 Sept. 1176. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
242.
Meeting at Leconfield, 13 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
13 Sept. 1177. Francis I. to his Ambassador in England.
Spanish
Calendar, VI.
i., No. 192.
“The letter dated St. Rivier, the 13 Sept., is entirely devoted to stag hunting, (fn. 2) in answer to a paragraph in the Ambassador's letter” describing a stag hunt at Hatfield near Doncaster.
Original at Vienna (in cipher).
13 Sept. 1178. Card. of St. Andrews to James V.
Add. MS.,
19, 401, f. 35.
B. M.
Has deferred writing since he came to this Court the — (blank) Aug., because the King, James' father, was removing, and the writer could never get him and his Council together. Francis is as affectionate to James as to any of his own sons, and thanks him that he has not condescended to any meeting with the king of England. If the king of England were to invade James' realm, Francis would defend him. Francis said he was anxious to learn from his ambassador in England the manner of the King's passing in the North parts, and if he might have known that it was to invade Scotland he would have sent assistance, without waiting to be required. Showed the preparations the king of England was making on his border, and the fortifications of towns, which necessitate James making the like, which he was unable to do without assistance, considering the king of England's great riches; and in case of any business with England, he wished Francis' help in time. Francis and his Council thought this reasonable, and promised to “perceive hastily” what could be betwixt him and the Emperor, and also the king of England. Spoke thus because he found them “disparit” of England in case the Emperor and Francis should fall out; for there is great appearance of trouble betwixt them, but not, I think, of much ado this year. The King said that England had proposed, to his ambassador there, the marriage of his daughter and Mons d'Orleans; but he thought it but dissimulation. Cannot write the love the King shows for James, as also do the Dauphin and Mons. d'Orleans and all the rest. The Constable is more and more out of favour. The King blames him for the Emperor's coming through France, which has occasioned great hurt to the King's affairs. James need not miss the Constable, as the King will do all he wants, and has commanded the pension to be paid, “howbeit they have mickle ado with silver, and prays to have ane little patience, and it shall be well paid.” The King commanded to discharge the imposition upon the merchants, but his Council make difficulty in it, because it is taken of the King's subjects, and they think it strange to make strangers freer than subjects. Mons. de Guise purposed, but for these troubles with the Emperor, to have come through England by post to Scotland, “but I trust there shall be other thing ado or the next year.” Will follow James' direction in that behalf. Ill reports of James have come to the King, his father's, ears, but he will never believe anything of him but good and honour. Has written to the Pope, and communed with his ambassador here, touching the contribution. Because Mr. George Hay has commissson to know James' mind whether a servant of the Pope's shall come to Scotland, nothing more will be done at present. The harness is making. As for the gyr falcons James wrote for, none have come here yet. “As for Casso, ye fule, he is cummyne, ane sely seikly body, and is not worth to be spokin for, nor may not travel.” The Card. of Turno and the Admiral are now greatest with the King, in the absence of Mons. Hannebo, who is now in Turyng, and will be here soon. The Dauphin and Dauphiness ask him to write to James to help Madame d'Albany to some good party in Scotland. She guides herself well, and the person she has most eye to is the master of Grahame. Whoever gets her will get 12,000 francs, with other profits, and she to have a pension of the Dauphiness. “As to it was said betwixt her and the sheriff of Air, there is nothing thereof.” Sends writings from the King and writings from the Queen of Naverne and other to the Queen. Mascon, 13 Sept. Signed: “yr Gracis awne maist hwmyll s'vitor off Sanctandrs.”
Pp. 3. Add.
14 Sept. 1179. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
243.
Meeting at Leconfield, 14 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Upon information that John Heron, of Haulbarnes, had been long detained in prison at Newcastle, and two warden courts had passed without anything being proved against him, a letter was written to Sir Cuth. Ratcliff that, if that were true, he should be let to bail.
14 Sept. 1180. Thomas Clerk, dean of Chester.
Harl. MS.
2, 067, f. 112b.
B. M.
Will of Sir Thomas Clarke, dean of Chester, 14 Sept. 1541.
Modern copy, p. 1.
14 Sept. 1181. Francis I. to Marillac.
R. O.
Kaulek, 336
(Abstract.)
Answered, from Jalligny, (fn. 3) his of the 12th ult. from Lincoln. Has since received those he wrote from Pontfret, 12 miles from York, on the 24th ult., (fn. 4) and took great pleasure in the news of this journey of the North, especially the account of the chase of Hatfert, which seemed a thing no less strange than worthy to be celebrated. Upon seeing what Norfolk had said of the coming of the king of Scotland, my son, to the king of England, I at once sent for the cardinal of St. Andrews, and took pains to learn from him if this interview could be. He assured me that the king of Scotland would never be there, and that if he had wished to do it he would not have failed to notify me first. Believes therefore that the interview will not take place; but, if it does, Marillac shall hold to the king of Scotland the most friendly language possible. Countersigned: Bochetel.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 2. Headed: 14 Sept, 1541. (fn. 5)
14 Sept. 1182. Card. of St. Andrews to James V.
Add. MS.
19, 401, f. 37.
B. M.
Since I wrote last, the King, your father, sent for me and said that his ambassador reported that the king of England was at York, awaiting your coming, and that the duke of Norfolk had said you would be there. I assured him to the contrary, and that I lately had writings in your own hand that you would nowise meet him and that you would be as constant as any son he (Francis) had; whereof he was “marvellous blythe.” He said Mons. de Hannebo wrote that earl Bothuil came to Turing, desiring to enter his service, and saying he might have had service with the Emperor, but refused it. He is now at Venice, awaiting answer of Mons. de Hannebo, and is furnished by a gentlewoman who came with him from Bruges, in Flanders, and keeps a train of 20 horse. I showed how he had offended you, and he “said he wald have na ado wyth him nor na other that your Grace wes not content with.” Mascon, 14 Sept.
P.S.—Madame la Daulphines writes presently to your Grace, who is as sure as any friend you have. Signed.
P.
1. Add. Sealed.
16 Sept. 1183. Marillac to Francis I.
R. O.
Kaulek, 337.
(Almost
the whole
text.)
Two days ago, received his letter from Chaulnes (fn. 6) of the 28th ult., concerning his talk with Norfolk; and would have at once learnt their intention, but that, while the King waited 10 or 15 miles off for this town to be ready to receive him, the Duke went to visit some sea ports 30 or 40 miles hence, from whence he will return in two days to be at the King's entry into this town. It seemed better to await his return than by seeking him, make them think this match more to our advantage than theirs; whereas they must be persuaded that it is entirely to their advantage, as it is, especially to get so high an alliance without putting the hand in the purse, which is the main ground for hoping that affairs will succeed. We must proceed the more discreetly as we have to deal with a crafty and extremely suspicious people, who often are cold enough at joining when they were warm at the first approaches.
As that matter might take seven or eight days in debate, despatches this with the news of the country and what has been said about the coming of the king of Scotland, who has been, and apparently still is, expected; for this King, who, by the programme (escript) of his journey, should have been already halfway back to London, is furnishing a great lodging of an old abbey, on which 1,200 or 1,500 workmen are night and day building, painting, &c., and adding tents and pavilions. Besides, he has had brought from London his richest tapestry, plate, and dress, both for himself and his archers, pages, and gentlemen, with marvellous provision of victuals from all parts. This seems to betoken some extraordinary triumph, like an interview of kings or a coronation of this Queen, which is spoken of to put the people of York in hope of having a Duke if she were to have a son. Still, the writer does not think the king of Scotland is coming so far into the country to make court to this King, even though he be his uncle; especially against the will of his prelates, who may thereupon fear that he wishes to confiscate the goods of the Church, being incited by the example of his neighbours and constrained by the scantiness of his revenue. Some great men of the Court say that about this interview nothing is certain; and the post horses which were to have been placed, five or six days ago, between this and Barwick, for the said King to come with a small company, are not yet spoken of; so that, at all events, his coming could not be for 15 or 20 days yet. Several men of judgment think he will not come.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 4. Headed: York, 16 Sept. 1541.
16 Sept. 1184. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
243.
Note that at Wressel, 15 Sept., the Council did not sit.
Meeting at York, 16 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Upon information that the mayor and citizens of London intended to choose Mr. Denam, alderman, to be their mayor next year, a letter was written to the Council at London, if the information were true, to send for the Mayor, Recorder, and some of the aldermen, and require them, in the King's behalf, that, Denam being too aged and sickly for an office of such “great charge and attendance,” they should do their best to get some other chosen. (fn. 7)
17 Sept. 1185. Hammes Pursuivant.
Harl. 283,
f. 148.
B. M.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
350.
Order to all mayors, sheriffs, &c. to supply Hammes pursuivant whom the King is sending in post into “those” parts with post horses from place to place, both outward and homeward, at reasonable prices. York, 17 Sept. Signed: T. Norfolk: Charlys Soffolke: W. Southampton: Robert Sussex: Antone Broune.
In Paget's hand, p. 1.
17 Sept. 1186. Francis I. to Marillac.
R. O.
Kaulek, 338.
(The whole
text.)
Since answering, from St. Trivyer, Marillac's of the 23rd inst. (ult.), has letters from his ambassador at Venice that the Signory's ambassador with king Ferdinand wrote from Neustat, the 25th ult., that, upon a mutiny for pay in Ferdinand's camp, the Turks and men of Budde attacked the camp (which numbered 30,000) and defeated them with great slaughter and the loss of their artillery, which is grievous fortune for all Christendom; also that the Turks had taken Peste, and the Turk in person, with 300 pieces of great artillery, was not far from Budde and would push on to Vienna, whence the queen of Hungary was departed to Lynz. A servant of the bp. of Transylvania told the writer's ambassador that Ferdinand's captain general, Roquendolf, who had before been wounded by an arquebuse, escaped with but 3,000 or 4,000 men; and that Vienna is so unfurnished with artillery and munitions, which were all at the siege of Budde, that, with the plague within it and despair at the retreat of Ferdinand and all his house, it would yield to the Turk. The Emperor, besides the number of men of war he has sent into Italy, was bringing 15,000 foot “de la” Valtirol (sic), which may be countermanded and serve the Emperor and his brother better there than in other war. Must, as a Christian prince, grieve with him at this piteous fortune, which will extend further before it is amended, and the obstinacy of those who have caused it is abated; for it would not have happened if Rincon had not been taken, who was despatched to stop the Turk. For three years Francis alone has kept him from invading Christendom, as the Emperor and the Pope well know. Has just received letters from Vincentio Magio, who is with the Turk, written from Belgrade, 18 Aug., that on hearing of Rincon's taking, the Turk imprisoned Lasquy, Ferdinand's ambassador, in a tower at Belgrade, arrested all his servants, and sold his horses by auction. Before that Bassa Rostan, who married one of the Turk's daughters, had written him a letter, of which Magio's translation in Italian is enclosed. (fn. 8)
By letters from Italy, the Emperor should be now at Lucques with the Pope, and had embarked most of his people. The duke of Savoy and his son had left him and withdrawn, very dissatisfied, to Nice.
Desires him to impart the above news to the king of England. Written at Lan en Bresse.
P.S.—Has, since writing the above, letters from the Seigneur de Boisrigault, his ambassador in Switzerland, confirming the above news, and that Vienna may be already taken; as the copy of a letter to him from Chevalier Tiveaugan (?) will show.
His son the Dauphin having no children, it will be a great pleasure to him to see his son Orleans, marrying lady Mary of England, have issue. Marillac shall therefore see lady Mary and consider her stature and beauty and other things by which it may be judged whether she is [one] to bear children; also discreetly inquire, of her physicians if possible, if this melancholy which she has so long worn has not brought on some malady which might prevent her having issue, as is said. Has fully answered his cipher of the 12th ult. Countersigned: Bochetel.
French. Modern transcript, pp. 6. Headed: 17 Sept. 1541.
1187. Rostan Pacha to Laschy.
R. O.
Kaulek, 340.
(The whole.)
Until now thy life and liberty have been in the hands of the Grand Signor. It is now in thine own, through the outrage lately done by Charles to the ambassador Antonio Rincon, who was coming to His Highness. He must write to his master to procure from his brother Charles, the instant release of Rincon, for it is well known that he has been arrested by his (Laschy's) advice; upon pain of terrible consequences to himself if the matter comes to the Grand Signor's ears. Whatever happens to the ambassador or his company, Laschy shall answer for it.
Italian. Modern transcript headed: Extraict de la lectre de Messire Vincentio Magio du xviije Aoust escripte a Belgrado. Copied as part of the despatch from Francis I. to Marillac, 17 Sept. 1541.
18 Sept. 1188. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
244.
Meetings at York, 17 and 18 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. No business recorded.
19 Sept. 1189. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
244.
Meeting at York, 19 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Recognisance (cited) of Robt. Serles, of Leynam, Kent, clk., to repair to the abp. of Canterbury by 10 Oct. next and deliver a letter which he has received from the Council, without opening it, and abide the Abp.'s judgment in the matter touching his preaching, which he says is depending in the Abp.'s consistory.
20 Sept. 1190. The Privy Council.
Nicolas'
P.C.P., vii.
245.
Meeting at York, 20 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Suffolk, Privy Seal, Gt. Chamb., Gt. Admiral, Durham, Treasurer, Comptroller, Mr. of Horse, Vice-Chamb., Wriothesley, Chanc. of Augm. Business:—Proclamation made that any one in these parts grieved for lack of justice from the Council resident in York or any other, might have free access to the King and Council and favourable audience to declare his grief during the King's abode in these parts. Robt. Richardson, a Scottish friar, examined and dismissed with a safeconduct to Scotland.

Footnotes

1 The Northern Rebellion of 1536.
2 This memorandum seems to be inaccurate. The letter of Francis from “St. Trivyer” appears to have been written on the 14th, not 13th, Sept., and is not “entirely devoted to stag hunting,” but does refer to Marillac's description of the stag hunt at Hatfield. See No. 1181.
3 See footnote to No. 1121 (2).
4 No. 1130, the first part of which is said to have been written on the 23rd, but that is either an error for 24th or the date 24th cited here is an error for 23rd. Compare No. 1186.
5 Written from Saint Trivyer, as appears by No. 1186.
6 Kaulek says the reading in the MS. is “Chavenies.” The place is evidently Chevagnes. See footnote to No. 1121 (2).
7 Michael Dormer was ultimately chosen.
8 See No. 1187.