House of Commons Journal Volume 2
11 March 1643

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 11 March 1643', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 2: 1640-1643 (1802), pp. 998-1000. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=7695 Date accessed: 24 April 2014. Add to my bookshelf


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Die Sabbati, 11 Martii, 1642.

PRAYERS.

Prisoners discharged.

RESOLVED, That William and Jo. Samson, now Prisoners in the Gatehouse, shall be forthwith discharged from any farther Restraint or Imprisonment.

Removing Prisoners, &c.

The Names of such Prisoners as was thought by the Committee to be removed from several Prisons, where now they are, to several Places, were read: And

It is Ordered, That it be re-committed unto the same Committee.

It is likewise referred to the same Committee, to consider, What Prisoners are escaped, out of any of the Prisons; and by whom; and to bring in a Report of them.

Hull Garison.

The House is not satisfied with the Answer of the Treasurers, to the Order made the last of February, for the Payment of Two thousand Pounds for the Garison of Hull, according to the said Order; and do require them to attend the House on Monday Morning, to give a particular Account, Wherefore they have not, or cannot perform Obedience to the said Order.

Treaty between Devon and Cornwall.

Four Letters from Exon, of the Eighth and Ninth of March; One from the Mayor of Exon to the Committee; One from some Deputy Lieutenants of Exon, of the Ninth of March, to Mr. Pym; One from Mr. Hardwick, a Minister, to Serjeant Wilde; One from divers Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Devon to Mr. Rous and Mr. Prideaux; relating, that a Treaty is concluded between the Treaters of Devon and Cornewall, for Twenty Days, without Authority of Parliament: And a Treaty to begin on Tuesday next, at Exon, for a Pacification and Association of the Counties of Cornewall, Devon, Sommersett, and Dorsett; were all this Day read.

Resolved, upon the Question, That a Post shall be forthwith sent to the City of Exeter, with a Letter from this House, to require them not to permit the Cornish Men, or any others that have borne Arms against the Parliament, to come into that City and treat.

Resolved, &c. That Mr. Prideaux and Mr. Nicoll be appointed to go down to Exeter with all Speed.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Strode, Sir Wal. Earle, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Solicitor, are presently to withdraw and prepare Instructions to be sent to Exeter; and a Letter to be sent away presently, by an Express, to Exeter, to acquaint them with the Votes of this House.

Lords to sit.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whitfield and Serjeant Glanville:

The Lords have resolved to sit this Afternoon at Three of Clock; of which they thought fit to give this House Notice.

Adjournment.

The Question being propounded, Whether the House should rise for an Hour; and then meet again;

The House was divided.
The Noes went forth.
Mr.Holles, Tellers for the Noe: 69
Sir Jo. Holland, With the Noe,
Sir Robert Harley, Tellers for the Yea: 52
Mr. Marten, With the Yea,

Roberts' Petition.

Ordered, That the humble Petition of John Roberts of London, Merchant, who had a Ship, by Stress of Weather, driven into Falmouth; and thereby sustained great Loss and Damage; and therefore prayeth a speedy Order for the Landing of his Goods; be referred to the Consideration of the Committee for the Navy.

Treaty with the King.

The Question being propounded, Whether the House should be turned into a Committee, to take this Business of the Articles of Cessation into Consideration;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That this House doth assent to the Alterations, sent from the Lords, to the First Article, with the Leaving out of the Word "respectively."-

Treaty between Devon and Cornewall.

A Letter, to be sent to the Mayor and Deputy Lieutenants of the City and County of the City of Exon, in Answer of their several Letters to this House, concerning a Treaty intended to be begun on Tuesday next, at the City of Exon between those of Cornewall, under the Command of Sir Ralph Hopton, and those of Devon; injoining the Mayor, &c. not to admit That Treaty in That City; was this Day read; and by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be signed by Mr. Speaker, and forthwith sent away by an Express.-

Treaty with the King.

The Question being put, Whether this House shall concur with the Lords in the Amendment of this Second Proposition;

The House was divided.
The Yeas went forth.
The Noes stayed within.
Sir Jo. Holland, Tellers for the Yea, 66.
Mr. Perepoint,
Sir Rob. Harley, Tellers for the Noe, 87.
Sir Gilb. Gerard,
So the Question passed with the Negative.

Resolved, upon the Question; That, after the Word "Victuals," in the First Vote, these Words shall be added, "and all other Commodities."

Resolved, &c. That this House doth adhere to the Second Article of the Cessation of Arms sent unto the King by both Houses.

The Question being put, whether this House would concur with the Lords in the Alterations they made in the Third Article of Cessation of Arms sent from his Majesty;

It passed with the Negative.

Resolved, &c. That the Third Proposition of Cessation of both Houses; and the Seventh Proposition of his Majesty's; with the Lords Alterations; be committed to the Consideration of the Committee of this House formerly appointed to meet with a Committee of the Lords, to consider of the Cessation, &c.; with the Addition of Sir Robert Harley, Sir Walth. Erle, Sir Jo. Clotworthy, Sir Jo. Corbett, and Mr. Solicitor: And are to meet on Monday next, at Eight of Clock, in the Court of Wards: And are appointed to prepare Reasons, to be offered to the Lords, that induce this House to differ from the Lords in many of their Alterations.

The Question being put, whether this House would assent to the Lords Alteration in the Sixth Article of the Cessation sent from his Majesty;

It passed with the Negative.

Pafs for Duke de Vendosme.

Ordered, That the Duke de Vendosme shall have Mr. Speaker's Warrant to go into France, with his Servants and Retinue.

Irish Affairs.

Ordered, That Mr. Reynolds and Mr. Goodwyn shall be added to the Committee for Irish Affairs where Sir Hen. Vaine has the Chair.

Armourers, &c. not to depart the City.

Ordered, That the Master and Wardens of the Company of Armourers and Gunners, or any of them, do forthwith take Care, that none of the said Companies do depart the City upon any Occasion whatsoever, to Oxford, or elsewhere: And that if any shall attempt to go, that they do restrain their Persons, and bring them before this House.

Procedeings in Common Council.

Mr. Pym reports, from the Committee appointed to go to London, with the Committee of Lords, to a Common Council, That the Committee propounded to the Common Council the Provision of Monies and Men, for Supply of the Army now in Motion. They were heard with a great deal of Attention and Willingness. And, after the Committee had declared the Message, and pressed them with such Reasons as they thought fit. they did withdraw. And then the Lord Mayor sent unto them, That, if they stayed a little longer, they should receive an Answer. After awhile, the Lord Mayor desired them to come in again; and told them, by the Direction of the Court, That they did acknowledge there had not been little more than a Third Part of the Money, which they had promised, and endeavoured it should be lent: And that, of the Sixty thousand Pounds, but Twenty-three thousand Pounds is come in; That they were well affected to the Work: Yet they found Obstructions: 1. That Thirty thousand Pounds they had lent, to be paid out of Malignants Monies, was not repaid, was a great Discouragement to lend now: 2. That Men of Ability did refuse to lend, and they had no Means to enforce them: 3. That the late Ordinance is not dispersed (but That, they say, was their Fault); which was the Ordinance for their Security: 4. Divers rich Citizens had left the City and carried away their Goods, and left empty Houses, which could yield no Help: That, for themselves, they stood well affected to the Desires of the Parliament, and the Advantage of the Cause: And that all there present had lent (except a very few) to the Service of the Parliament. That on Saturday and Monday, they would divide themselves in several Parishes. So much he spoke to the Point of Supply of Monies. (2.) for the Assistance of Men, the City had but Three Regiments besides the Trained Bands: And they had spared Two of them in actual Service: One in the Army; the other at Windsor. The Third is at their Out Guards; which they must keep here (for that there are Discontents about the Town), besides their Assistance in the Guarding of Prisons, where some are kept that were of the King's Army, that are able to lead an Army. But, however, they would commend That likewise to the City. Then he told the Committee further, That the Desire of the City most earnestly was, for their Encouragement in Assistance of the Parliament.

Treaty between Devon and Cornwall.

Instructions for Edmund Prideaux and Antony Nicoll Esquires.

1. YOU shall forthwith repair into the County of Devon, and to the City of Exeter.

2. You shall declare to the Mayor and Deputy Lieutenants of that City, and of the County of the City, What Information this House hath received of a Cessation and Treaty with such of the Cornish Men as have borne Arms against the Parliament, without any Direction from the Two Houses of Parliament; and without giving them any Account or Notice of their Proceedings, or of the Articles upon which they treat.

3. You shall let them know, What both Houses have resolved in the like Cases, concerning Yorkeshire and Cheshire.

4. You shall require the Mayor and Deputy Lieutenants of that City and County of Exeter, not to suffer any Meeting of Commissioners for this Treaty in that City, not at all to give any Admittance to any that have raised or borne Arms against the Parliament: And if, before you receive these Instructions, any such Commissioners, or any other Persons as have borne Arms against the Parliament, come in pursuance of this Treaty, that they be safely conducted into Cornwall; or, if they refuse to return thither, that you then cause them to be apprehended, and kept in safe Custody, there to remain, till further Order be taken by both Houses of Parliament.

5. You shall make the like Declaration as is mentioned, in the Second Article, to the Earl of Stanford, Lord General of the Army in those Parts; and to the Officers of the Army, and Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Devon, and Committee, and Committees of Parliament: And you shall require them to certify this House, What Proceedings they have made on any such Treaty, and upon what Grounds; and that they proceed no further therein, till they have advertised the Lords and Commons in Parliament, and received further Direction.

6. You shall acquaint his Lordship, and the rest of the Persons aforenamed, that you have received Information, That the Forces of that County of Devon are, for the greatest Part, dismissed, and gone to their Houses: And that such of the Cornish Men, as aforesaid, have drawn together great Forces, and received some Supply of Ammunition, since this Treaty; and that it is probable they intend some new Attempt upon Devon: And therefore you are to require them to make such Provision, as that County be not left naked to their Invasion and Spoil.

7. You shall use your best Means to be fully informed of the Grounds and Reasons of this Treaty: And shall take Care for the Safety and Peace of the County of Devon: And to satisfy those Gentlemen who have been active in this Business, How derogatory it is to the Power and Authority of Parliament, that such Proceedings should be without their Consent and Concurrence; and how dangerous to the Kingdom, that Two or more Counties should by such means be divided from the rest. And you shall declare, That the Parliament is not bound by any such Treaty; the House not doubting but, being thus informed they will do that which becomes them in Duty and Honour.

8. You shall likewise use your utmost Endeavour, that those in Cornwall, who have raised this War against the Parliament, and committed so much Spoil upon the Subjects of Devon, may make Satisfaction, and be brought to answer their great Offences in Parliament; and that the rest of that County may be reduced to their Duty and Obedience to the High Court of Parliament, in such Manner as shall conduce to the publick Peace of the Kingdom.

9, That you signify the Pleasure of the Houses to the Lord General, and all others whom it may concern, that no Leave be given to Sir Ralph Hopton, or any other, to pass through Devon, or any other County, with any Forces into any other Parts of the Kingdom.