Henry VIII
March 1532, 11-20

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'Henry VIII: March 1532, 11-20', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 5: 1531-1532 (1880), pp. 407-415. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=77480 Date accessed: 29 August 2014.


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March 1532, 11-20

11 March.
Harl. MS. 425, f. 13 b. B. M. Latymer's Remains, II. 218.
860. Latimer.
11 March 1531. Confession of faith by Mr. Hugh Lattymer, B.D., Cambridge, called before the archbishop of Canterbury, the bp. of London, and other prelates of the province of Canterbury, in their Convocation, for erroneous preaching.
1. That there is a place of purgatory. 2. That souls in purgatory are helped by masses and alms deeds. 3. That the apostles and martyrs are in heaven. 4. That they pray for us. 5. That they are to be honoured. 6. That pilgrimages and oblations are meritorious. 7. That vows of chastity must not be broken without dispensation from the bishop. 8. That St. Peter's keys remain to his successors, bishops, though they live evil lives, and were never given to laymen. 9. That it is profitable to invocate saints. 10. That alms deeds and other good works are meritorious. 11. That men forbidden by the bishops to preach ought not to do so until they have purged themselves and been lawfully restored. 12. That Lent and fasting days should be kept. 13. That God gives grace to those who receive the seven sacraments. 14. That the consecrations, sanctifications, and benedictions received in the Christian Church are laudable and profitable. 15. That images are profitable. 16. That it is profitable for them to be decked and trimmed, and candles set before them.
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11 March.
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861. W. Frankeleyn to Cromwell.
Thanks him for the trouble he has taken on his account with the bishop of Lincoln. As it was not effectual, has been persuaded by his friends next summer to enter residence in the church of York, where by the statutes he must make his abode the first 26 weeks continually. Hopes, therefore, if he be called to any business, Cromwell will make his excuse. Desires a licence of non-residence for a priest unnamed to order his house; or, if the name must be expressed, for Sir Nicholas Holme. Durham, 11 March.
Requests Cromwell to intercede for him with Mr. Magnus to give up to him next Lady Day a piece of grass ground beside his prebend of York, which was held to farm of Martyn Abbey by his predecessor, Master Dalby, and which the Prior is willing that he should have with the consent of Magnus, who now holds it. Signed.
P. 1. Add. : To Master Cromell, one of the King's most honorable Council. Sealed. Endd.
12 March.
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862. The Chapel Royal.
Warrant to lord Windsor, keeper of the Great Wardrobe, to deliver to Ric. Grene, serjeant of the Vestry, for the use of the Chapel Royal of the Household, the following parcels; viz., 46 "surples" for the gentlemen of the Chapel, 16 for the children; 2 towels of linen cloth, of 2 ells each, for the font; 2 doz. tucking girdles; half a thousand small hooks of iron, and half a thousand great hooks; 1 yard "of right purple velvet, for the garnishing of our palms, as also for the washing of the altars on Maundy Thursday next coming;" I yard of right crimson velvet "for the garnishing of the Queen's and the Princess's palms." Westm., 12 March 23 Hen. VIII. Signed at top.
12 March.
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863. The King's Maundy.
Warrant to lord Windsor, keeper of the Great Wardrobe, to pay for the following goods; viz., a gown of violet in-grain, furred with martrons; 42 gowns and hoods of russet cloth, and 42 pairs of leather shoes, for 42 poor men; and 224 ells of linen cloth for the King's maundy; 20 ells of canvas and two foot sheets for the Wardrobe of Robes; canvas and cord to pack them, and a cart for carriage from London to Greenwich. Greenwich, 12 March 23 Hen. VIII. Signed at top.
12 March.
Simancas MS.
864. Musetula to Charles V.
Has opposed delay at the last discussion this morning, in the cause of England. The Pope has supported him.
News from France that the King is going into Brittany and the Queen remains at Blois.
A secretary of the Vayvode was sent to the king of France to seek aid; and, having a similar commission to the king of England, Francis, before answering, sent him to England. He has returned, having obtained an answer from Henry that he refers to what the king of France will do. It is not likely he will get anything. There has arrived an answer from England to the Pope's application about the Turk. It appears to me to agree with the French king's bravado that he will help in person and with an army, and that he does not wish to give money, but men, &c. The Pope says these are merely words, that Henry wishes to go the same road as the king of France; but in this he is undeceived. The Pope tells me that the duke of Suffolk said to the Nuncio that his Holiness endangered his soul by not wishing to remit the matter of matrimony into England, and that for this cause he should have no aid against the Turk; but if he would remit it to England, or at least to France, he knew the King would aid him with money. The Pope showed how dishonest this proposition was, as the king of England wished to make use of the Turk for his own purpose. I nevertheless, in reply, showed how unlike Henry's conduct was to that of a Christian prince, to give money that injustice might be done to the Queen, and refuse it for the defence of the Christian Faith. This the Pope admitted, and expressed great disgust to see how little regard Henry had for the service of God. Rome, 12 March 1532.
Sp., pp. 2. Modern copy.
Add. MS. 28,582, f. 189. B. M. 2. Modern copy of an extract from the preceding letter, undated, inthe MSS. at Simancas, said to be in Mai's handwriting.
Pp. 2.
12 March.
Simancas MS.
865. Mai to Charles V.
Extract from a letter dated Rome, 12 March 1532. In the cause of England we are as urgent as possible, and I hope we shall do good, seeing that it is treated there as a matter of State, to be determined by considerations of policy, not of justice. They are trying hard to create delay, and nothing more can be done without your Majesty's orders. I hope that in today's Consistory the discussions will be finished. I think that the declaration of this article will carry us to the vacation, or at least there will be so little time for audiences that the principal cause cannot be despatched until next year, unless, by your Majesty's presence, the Pope can be induced to despatch it during the holidays.
Sp., p. 1. Modern copy.
12 March.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 232. B. M.
866. Dr. Ortiz to Charles V.
Has received the Emperor's letter of 26 Feb. The Consistory is now hearing the discussion of irrelevant conclusions offered by the other side to prove that the excusator ought to be admitted without a mandate,—a point which had already been determined in the negative by two decretals. The Rota had decided to proceed regardless of the letter which the King sent in place of a mandate.
Compares the Queen to the Martyrs. Advises the Emperor to request the Pope to send the brief of excommunication if the other is not obeyed, because, although his Holiness has promised it, he does not feel certain of the performance.
The cardinal of Compostella, president of the Council in Spain, has used great diligence in sending the determinations of the universities and prelates. Has received those of the universities of Salamanca, Alcala, and Valladolid, with that of the president and auditors of Valladolid. They will counteract the false determinations procured by the king of England by favor and money. The Cardinal has sent also the depositions (probanças) made in the Court, and at Toledo, Burgos, Valladolid, Seville, Malaga, Madrid, and Santiago in Gallicia, and other writings referring to the Queen's marriages. The bp. of Mondoñcdo writes that one Catalina de Guevara is a witness of the Queen's virginity when she married Henry, though the justice of the case is certain, irrespective of this. Rome, 12 March 1532.
Sp., pp. 4. Modern copy.
13 March.
R. O.
867. The Divorce.
Three further conclusions drawn in Consistory, 13 March, from the articles formerly delivered to his Holiness. (See No. 852.)
Lat., pp. 10.
13 March.
Add. MS. 28,584, f. 235. B. M.
868. Dr. Ortiz to the Empress.
Contains the same information as his letters of 12 March to the Emperor.
The bp. of Badajos is coming to prove that the Queen's first marriage was not consummated.
The ambassador in England writes that the King opened Parliament on 16 Jan.; and it is commonly said that the divorce is the principal cause of its meeting. Rome, 13 March 1532.
Sp., pp. 4. Modern copy.
Ib., f. 237. 2. English abstract of the above.
Pp. 2.
14 March.
Vit. B. XXI. 54. B. M. Ellis, 3 Ser. II. 189. Pocock, II. 228.
869. [Sir T. Elyot] (fn. 1) to the Duke Of Norfolk.
Thanks him for speaking to the King about his return, but his hope of doing so soon is diminished, as the King desires him to stay at Brussels for the apprehension of Tyndall, who is as uncertain to come by as he is moveable in wit. Hears that he withdraws himself where he is most out of danger. As he has written to the King, the Emperor is still suffering from a fall from his horse, and neither Cranmer nor he can have access to him. Has promised the King to write to Norfolk concerning the affairs at Nurnberg, especially concerning the Faith, but will first speak of other towns. Worms is almost wholly possessed with Lutherans and Jews; the rest are indifferent. "Truth it is that the Bishop keepeth well his name of episcopus, which is in English an overseer, and is in the case that overseers of testanents be in England, for he shall have leave to look, so that he meddle not; yet some time men calleth him overseen that is drunk, when he neither knoweth what he doeth, nor what he ought to do." Spires remains firm to the Faith. "One thing I mark. Such as were lovers, divers of them had their paramours sitting with them in a dray, which was drawn with a horse trapped with bells," causing them to trot and make a great noise. The women had only a chaplet on their heads, and the horses great horns.
Gives an account of the state of Nuremberg, and his reception there by Staber and the townspeople, who eat meat universally, though they sent us fish. Speaks of their new method of celebrating mass. Cranmer says that in the Epistles and Gospels they keep not the same order as we do, but peruse every day a chapter of the New Testament. Describes the method of consecration and preparation for the communion. All the priests had for wives the fairest women of the town. Describes the abundance of grain and ammunition in the town. Ferdinand's wife is expected here with her children. Regensburg, 14 March.
Would be glad if Baynton knew some of these stories.
Mutilated. Add. Endd. : From Sir T. Elyot to my lord of Norfolk.
16 March.
Galba, B.x. 4*. B. M.
870. Stephen Vaughan to Cromwell.
"... by a mean g ... to break with the King taking his first ... [p]rocede partly of th ... ages which his subjects receive in England, and ... large liberties, which the King's subjects by virtue of the intercourse ... granted in the Emperor's countries, which yet arn no just and reasonable ... y they on their behalf should for so light and weak griefs as they [have aga]ynst us pretente under collour thereof to break with the King's ..." To obviate these unkind motions, and the perils which may result therefrom, the devices which I wrote in my book to the King might be openly declared in the Parliament house, that they might know what detriment is suffered by England from the continual haunt and repair of the merchants to the marts; how all labours and occupations are taken from them, their country well nigh destroyed, and themselves brought into great misery and idleness; how Flanders, which receives more profit from us than any other country, as our merchants buy linen cloth, St. Thomas worsteds, sayes, buckrams, Bruges satins, and other things, for ready money, has banished our cloth, and spitefully burn what they can find. What Englishman true to his prince and country can suffer such cruelty where we do most good? The Merchant Adventurers and clothmakers should from time to time be persuaded to remember these things, and how they begin to banish our cloth in Holland also; and how, if the King should grant their unreasonable requests, they would in short time bring our heads under their girdles. If the King's subjects can well take these motions of the Emperor, with his unreasonable and proud requests, they shall find that never was thing happier moved than it; for thereby they shall learn to know, which they have long forgotten, their most beautiful, rich, and fertile country, and the virtues thereof, and endeavour thereby virtuously to use the same as they ought to do and not suffer them to be spent to the enriching of strange countries, and the impoverishing of itself. I have declared many things to the King's commissioners, so that they right well perceive [o]ur own fault. Calles, 16 March 1531.
Hol., p. 1, mutilated. Add.
16 March.
Add. MS. 8,584, f. 239. B. M.
871. Muxetula to Charles V.
Arrangements for sending a Legate to France and England to ask for aid for the defence of Italy. Rome, 16 March 1532.
Sp., pp. 3. Modern copy.
16 March.
R. O.
872. Henry VIII.'s College.
Grant to the dean and canons of King Henry VIII.'s College in Oxford, of the revenues from Mich. last of the late monasteries of St. Fridiswide and Lytylmore, in Oxford, Bucks, Berks, and Northants; the parsonage of Donton and Ragdale, lately belonging to the priory of Canwall, Leic.; the parsonage of Rudby and prebend of Wyttwang, Yorks.; the lands of the late monastery of Daventre, in Northants and Rutland; the parsonage of Chalkford and Shobyndon, belonging to the late monastery of Walingford; possessions of the late monastery of Tonbryge, in Kent and Norfolk; the manor of Brokeley, at West Greenwich, belonging to the late monastery of Begham; the site of the manor and demesne lands, with the rents of assize in Lyssons, belonging to the late suppressed monastery of Lyssons in Kent; and the lands lately purchased of Sir Robt. Utharde in Yorkshire. Westm., 16 March 23 Hen. VIII. Not signed or sealed.
Copy, p. 1, large paper. Endd.
R. O. 2. Another copy.
P. 1. Endd.

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873. [John Lord Audley] to [Cromwell].
"... [master]shyp off ... nor off hys Grace ... [f]or me and my p[o]uer ... wre ... lyvys and to pray ... [m]ene tyme to [pa]y the ren[t] ... pe and to kepe the comodyt[t]ys ... h[ys Gr]ace [as] my dessyer hatthe byn to do, and ever shaull be wylle I leve, what payne so ever I take, and what place so ever hys Hynes wyll apowynt me to, I wyll be glad ther to conttyn[e]w, and to do that shaull be hys most gracyus plessure, bessechyng yow to have remorsse to my extreme povertte, and hellpe that I be not yn my old age utterlly ondune and cast away for ever, as I am lyke to be, exseppt your favorabyll hellpe be showyd at thys tyme off grett nede."
P. 1, badly mutilated.
17 March.
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874. John Lord Audeley to Cromwell.
Is much bound to Cromwell for his kind letter, and for accepting his rude present. His ability to do better is hindered by the adulation and detraction of these corrupt merchants, especially of Sir John Mundy, of whose "fettys" the bearer will deliver a memorial. Begs him to remember his suit to the King. Is at much pains how to do his Highness service, as will appear by a breviate of his devices, and the bearer can partly explain; but the whole cannot be made apparent till it is put in practice with the King's aid, which would enable him to do things which now seem mystical. Wishes to obtain from the king of Portugal something commodious to the King, with a discharge of his bargain made by means of Laur. Bonevyz. Requires only three things : 1, a "licence for intelligence," otherwise, being a baron, he will not be able to practise merchandise; 2, to know the King's pleasure about exchanging the service he should do "for waryis for hys Grace warderop," for that of his spicery; 3, a licence for 100 way of beans to exchange in Ireland for hobbies and hawks for the king of Portugal. Wade, 17 March.
Hol., pp. 3. Add. : To his most especial and singular friend, Mr. Crumwell. Endd.

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875. Lord Audeley.
"The effect of the humble petition of the lord Audeley to the king's Highness."
1. That he was ordained to pay for his restitution 6,500 marks, for which lands have been mortgaged to 250 marks a year; that he has paid 4,500 marks, or little more, so that there remain about 2,500 marks, which he wishes the King to accept by instalments of 100l. a year, or else to allow him easy days of payment, like other noblemen.
2. That he was induced to become surety for Laurence Bonevixi, a stranger, now deceased, in reference to a bargain of silks, malveseys, and English cloth, for which Bonevixi was to have received 2,000 marks a year of the King for 10 years, on delivery of goods to the Wardrobe; that for this he borrowed 800l. for 15 years, on the security of certain lands, being assured by the King's council that it was safe, and that Bonevixi could bring the signors of Venice, Florence, and Luke to be bound for it; but by ill fortune it was broken, and it appears the debt was never a good one. Offers the King payment at the rate of 100l. a year, or at 250 marks a year of the lands bound for his restitution, whenever the sum due to the King for that is paid off, which it will be seven years before the day he was bound to pay Bonvixi.
Pp. 2.
[17 March.]
R. O.
876. Dr. John London to Cromwell.
I have made diligent search for such things as I promised to send you, and some I have found. I beg you will continue good master unto me in my suit for my poor college. Oxford, Passion Sunday.
Hol., p. 1. Add. : Of the King's council. Endd. inaccurately : The bishop of London.
19 March.
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877. London.
Lease by Joan Bynde, prioress of St. John Baptist, Halywch (Halywell), to Wm. Burche, of London, of a great messuage in Fanchurche Street, London, abutting upon the High Street, south, the gardens belonging to the Fishmongers, north-west, the house of one Gynkynson, east, and on the west upon an alley some time Mr. Morfen's. Dated 19 March 23 Hen. VIII.
Pp. 4, copy, mutilated.
19 March.
R. O. St. P. II. 158.
878. John Archbishop Of Dublin to [Crom]well.
I thank you for your pains, taken along with my brother, in bringing my second great præmunire to a conclusion; and trust to show myself grateful in deeds hereafter; for which I must beg you to get the King to give me a prebend of 100l. a year to maintain the estate of primate, to which his Highness has called me, truly against my will. The Council here have so sore grated on my little substance that I cannot live with worship, especially as my credits with you are denied unjustly. Here I cannot have the 40 marks fee of the chancellorship, nor the money I laid out on the King's letters for ships and wages, &c. But I hope next year, when out of debt, to send you a hobby, a hawk, and a Limerick mantle, as the bearer, my servant, Nic. Cloes, will explain. Dublin, 19 March 1531. Signed.
Add. : [To my sp]etiall good frende Mr. [Thomas Crum]well.
20 March.
Vienna Archives.
879. Chapuys to Charles V.
Since answering the Emperor's letter of the 18th Feb., has received his letter of the 9th, from Mayence. The Queen is greatly consoled by the Emperor's remembrance of her, and the affection he shows her in her pitiable condition. She does not expect a good result without the Emperor's aid, in consequence of the continual delays and calumnies of those who boast that when the Emperor is in Spain they will do with the Pope and the others what they please. She has, therefore, charged Chapuys to write to the Pope to hasten the sentence.
Will continue to send English news to the queen of Hungary and Mons. de Likerke (Liedekerke).
The King has been at the Parliament three times lately, and has played his part so that the article about the annates has been passed. All the bishops and two abbots opposed it. The lords (les grans), who were about thirty, all consented, except the earl of Arundel, so that the majority was for the King. The matter was decided yesterday. Hopes this disorder will not prejudice the Queen's affair, which has not yet been mentioned in Parliament. Nothing else of importance has been concluded, but on Saturday their intention will be known, as then the States will be prorogued (licenciez) till after St. George's Day.
Yesterday the safe-conduct was granted to the Scotch ambassadors who are going to France, for a bishop and a secretary, and not for other lords. The Scotch herald (fn. 2) will return today, accompanied by an English herald.
Two days ago, went, by order of the queen of Hungary, to speak to the duke of Norfolk about compensation for men of Dunkirk who had been plundered at sea. The Duke gave him certain hope of compensation, but said it could not be settled till after the Parliament, with which he is completely occupied. The French ambassador is more annoyed at this delay than Chapuys is, as they do not give him such good hope. His claim from the same pirates amounts to more than 10,000 fr., but the whole loss sustained by the Emperor's subjects is only 200 fr. The Duke hardly let Chapuys finish his complaint before beginning to speak of the coming of the Turk, which he said was certain. He said also that the French king had made a fair offer for resistance against the Turk, if his terms were accepted,— which were, that the Emperor should return his ransom, or remit to him the kingdom of Naples, which he would defend. Replied that he could not say more than he had already done, and that the French king was too virtuous and prudent to make such proposals while he and the Emperor were perfect friends. Norfolk said he thought so too, and that the news had not come from a good source; but there was other news more certain, that the Swiss had granted the French king 10,000 foot. Asked what he wanted them for? The Duke said "Perhaps to resist the Turk."
The King has had a preacher arrested for preaching in the Great Church against the divorce. On being examined by the Council he said he was moved to do so by the truth, the service of God, and the honor of the King. Is informed that the King has ordered preachers generally to support his cause. One tried to begin in the bishopric of cardinal Campeggio, but the women and others would have treated him very ill, if it had not been for the authority of justice.
The King lately sent a post to Rome. Another will go today to frighten the Pope about the annates, and to bribe cardinals and others with money and benefices. London, 20 March '32.
Fr. From a modern copy.
20 March.
Camusat, 188 b.
880. Bishop Of Auxerre to Montmorency.
Wrote lately to De la Pommeraie that cardinal de Trani, the third in rank and of great reputation, and who has hitherto belonged to the French faction, intends to become protector of England, as the king of England is not content with Campeggio. He has asked De la Pommeraie to speak to the king of England for him. It will be of great benefit to the affairs of the king of England. Wishes the King to be informed of it, that, if it is done, the Cardinal may have reason to think it was done by means of the King. Advises that some benefice should be given to him; for, as cardinal Gramont and Albany can show, he has never failed to show his partiality for the King. Cardinal Freneze (Farnese), while talking to the Pope of his voyage to the Emperor, told him that if the King was not there he ought not to go to the Emperor. It would be a good thing to entertain the Cardinal, as Albany knows. He asks nothing for the present but favor and good words, and professes to be grateful for the benefits he received from the late King.
Fr. Headed : A M. le Grand Maistre, du 20 Mars 1532.
20 March.
Camusat, 189 b.
881. Bishop Of Auxerre to Montmorency.
Account of a conversation with the cardinal of Medicis, who is determined to become master of Florence, Sienna, and Lucca, and even, as his agent Caigni says, to kill his cousin, the duke Alexander. He wishes for the King's countenance, and is ready to serve him. Complains that he would already have been master of Florence, but that Albany prevented it when he went to Florence lately (et que neust ete ce que Mons. dAlbanie le garda lautrefois quil sen alla â Florence).
Fr. Headed : A M. le Grand Maistre, du 20 March 1532.
20 March.
Camusat, 78.
882. J. Du Bellay, Bishop of Paris, to the Bailly Of Troyes.
He will hear from his despatch about the reception of Mons. de Rochefort, who is now contented with what has been done, though at first he was very unreasonable. Thinks his father would have broken off the interview, as much to see that it could not be managed by him, but by the duke of Norfolk, as from a jealousy of the [French] king and the Pope. Does not think Norfolk consented to Rochford's despatch. Desires him to find out where the hitch is. Thinks [Norfolk] considers him (the writer) unfriendly to the English, but the interview is the best remedy for their affair. Does not think they will stop here long before going to Lyons, after keeping Easter at Paris or near. La Fere, 20 March.
Fr.
20 March.
Camusat, 78 b.
883. Gilles De La Pommeraye to [Francis De Dinteville, Bishop of] Auxerre.
Has received four letters from him in one day, and showed two of them to this King, who writes to thank him. Praises the King's wit, magnanimity, and friendship for Francis. Is treated more like a prince than an ambassador,—lodged in the King's house, and eating at his table. The Bishop must not be surprised at the writer's asking him to assist the King. The King had undertaken a war against the Scotch for some quarrel about the boundaries, but he has now referred it to law, partly in deference to the French king. Sends a cipher. Asks him for advice. Has always thought that the rumour about the Turk at Rome was set on foot for the reasons which the Bishop has written. London, 20 March.
This King has a great wish to chastise the priests, and to deprive them of some of their accustomed privileges. This is the cause of the wrong done to him at Rome, which is as great as can be. It is strange, that the Emperor has such influence with the Pope as to hinder him from doing right and justice.
Fr.
20 March.
R. O.
884. Grain for Calais.
Certificate by John Futch, deputy to the customer of Yarmouth, that Ric. Crowde, of Cromer, showed him at Blakeney two certificates for his obligations for two ships laden with grain going from Blakeney to Calais. Crowde visited the obligations either delivered to him or cancelled, but Futch had orders not to do so. 20 March 23 Hen. VIII. Signed.
P. 1. Endd.

Footnotes

1 The signature of this letter is now lost by mutilation, but the writer is identified by the endorsement. Nevertheless Ellis has printed it without stating who the writer was, and Mr. Pocock attributes it to Augustine, in whose hand he supposes it to be written.
2 Bute Pursuivant?