House of Commons Journal Volume 3
22 July 1643

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 3: 22 July 1643', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 3: 1643-1644 (1802), pp. 177-179. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=7934 Date accessed: 24 November 2014.


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Die Sabbati, 22 Julii, 1643.

PRAYERS.

Listing Horses.

AN Ordinance for listing and raising Horses within the Cities of London, Westminster, and some Fifteen Counties adjacent and neighbouring, according to Proportions set upon the said several Counties and Places, was read; and, by Vote upon the Question, assented unto; and ordered to be delivered unto the Lords, at a Conference.

Lieutenant of the Tower.

Resolved, &c. That Isaac Pennington, now Lord Mayor of the City of London, Jo. Langham, and Tho. Andrewes, now Sheriffs of the City of London, and County of Middlesex, shall, in the Absence of the Lieutenant of the Tower, and until both Houses give further Order, execute the Office of Lieutenant of the Tower, in as full and ample manner as the Lieutenant himself might do.

Resolved, That the Lords be moved to join herein.

Listing Horses.

The Question being put, whether the Ordinance for listing of Horses shall be sent up with a Blank for the Names of the Commanders in chief;

The House was divided:

The Yeas went out.

Sir Jo. Hepsley, Sir Antho. Irby, Tellers for the Yea, 42.
Lord Ruthen, Sir Chr. Yelverton, Tellers for the Noe, 49.

So the Question passed with the Negative.

Army Appointments.

Resolved, upon the Question, That the Earl of Bullingbrooke shall be nominated . . command the Body of Horse to be raised in the Counties of Bedford, Bucks, Northampton, and Hertford.

Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Manchester shall be nominated, for London, Middlesex, Westminster, Essex, and Kent; to command the Body of Horse there to be raised.

Resolved, &c. That the Lord Howard of Eskrigg shall be nominated to command the Body of Horse to be raised in the County of Huntington, Norfolk, Suffolk, and Cambridge.

Resolved, &c. That the Earl of Pembroke shall be nominated to command the Body of Horse to be raised in the County of Surrey, Sussex, Hants, and Berks.

Resolved, &c. That Colonel Richard Norton shall command next under the Earl of Pembroke; and command in his Absence.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Jo. Norrige shall command next under the Earl of Bullingbrooke; and command in his Absence.

Resolved, &c. That Sir Miles Hubbard shall command next under the Lord Howard; and to command in his Absence.

Chomley's Goods.

Ordered, That Leonard Rowntree, Servant to Sir Henry Cholmley, shall have Liberty to view such of the Goods that were of late in the Possession of Sir John Hotham, late Governor of Hull, and were seized upon by the Mayor of Hull; and that the Lord Fairfax do take Order, that such Goods as the said Leonard Rowntree shall make Oath of, before the Mayor of Hull, to belong unto Sir Henry Cholmley, be forthwith delivered unto the said Leonard Rowntree, for the Use of the said Sir Henry Cholmley.

Scandalizing Lord General.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for Examinations, to inquire after those Persons that have made or dispersed any Picture to scandalize the Lord General.

Countess of Roxbrough s Corpse.

Ordered, That Mr. Speaker do grant his Pass for the Conveyance of the Corpse of the Countess of Roxbrough into Scotland; and for those that attend the Corpse.

Forces for Dartford.

Ordered, That Captain Geo. Twiselton do forthwith march, with his Company, to Dartford in Kent, for the Security of that Place, and Assistance of the Deputy Lieutenants.

Lords to sit.

Sir Henry Mildmy went up to the Lords, to desire them to sit awhile: And brings Answer, they will sit at Three Clock in the Afternoon.

Insurrection in Kent.

Ordered, That Mr. Pym do write a Letter to be sent from this House to the Deputy Lieutenants and Commanders in Kent, to fight with those there risen in Arms against the Parliament; notwithstanding any Command to the contrary.

Resolved, &c. That the Deputy Lieutenants and Commanders in Kent be hereby authorized and required to try, by martial Law, the Persons that are risen in Arms against the Parliament in Kent; and to execute martial Law accordingly on them.

Ordered, That Mr. Solicitor, Mr. Pym, and Sir Jo. Clotworthy, do bring in an Ordinance to this Purpose, to pass both Houses.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee of the Navy, to send Boats, and Soldiers therein, down the River of Thames, for the securing of the River, and Ships, and Ordnance.

Ordered, That Mr. Holland and Mr. Vassall do go to the Committee for the Militia, for securing Wollage, Chatham, and Places of Consequence on the River of Thames; and what is fit to be done for the Safeguard of the River: And what Charge they shall be at, this House will see satisfied forthwith, upon Notice thereof.

Naval Affairs.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Navy shall have Power to set forth from Bristoll Two Frigates, to be employed upon the Irish Coasts, to prevent the coming over of any Irish Rebels out of the Kingdom.

Reduction of Ireland.

Letters to be sent to Mr. Strickland, to the States General, to the particular States, to Mr. Derricke Oost, and Mr. Lawrance, by Mr. Mauriæ Thompson and Mr. Corselles, to excite and stir them up to adventure or contribute to the Reduction of Ireland, were read; and assented unto.

Arms for Ireland.

Ordered, That the Committee for the Affairs of Ireland at Grocers Hall, shall have and receive out of the Tower a Thousand Staves, to be sent over into Ireland for the Service of the Forces there.

Arms in the Tower.

Ordered, That it be referred to the Committee for the Militia in London, to give Order, that all the Muskets and Callivers in the Tower may be viewed, and made serviceable for the State.

Disposition of the Army.

Resolved, &c. That his Excellency my Lord General be desired to dispose of or move with his Army, or any Part thereof, in such manner as he shall think most fitting for the Safety and Defence of the Kingdom, and every Part thereof.

Ordered, That this Vote be delivered to the Lords at a Conference; and their Concurrence desired therein.

Message to Lords.

Sir Rob. Pye carried up to the Lords the Ordinance for making my Lord Fairefax Governor of Hull: And was to desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, so soon as may stand with their Lordships Conveniency, concerning the raising and listing a Body of Horse; and concerning my Lord General.

Army Cloathing.

A Letter from divers of the Officers of the Army (of the Twentieth of July) under the Command of my Lord General, concerning the Soldiers wanting Cloathing, &c. was this Day read.

Resolved, &c. That Care shall be taken, in convenient time, for cloathing the Foot Soldiers in the Army under the Command of my Lord of Essex.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, that the Lords do agree to the Ordinance for making my Lord Fairefaxe Governor of Hull; and will grant a present Conference, by a Committee of the whole House, in the Painted Chamber, as is desired.

Army Affairs.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a free Conference, by a Committee of the whole House, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning a Letter they have received from the Council of War of the Army under the Command of the Earl of Essex.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting at a Conference, by a Committee of the whole House, as is desired.

Mr. Pym and Sir Gilb. Gerard are appointed Managers, and Reporters, of these Conferences.

Supplies for Hull.

A Letter from my Lord Fairefaxe, of the Eighteenth of July, from Hull; desiring a speedy Supply of Monies and Ammunition; was this Day read.

Ordered, That the Committee of the Safety do send for Mr. Stockdall, and hear what he hath to propound, for Supplies of my Lord Fairefaxe; and, with all Speed, to furnish him; and to report to the House, on Monday, what they have done herein.

Army Affairs.

Mr. Pym reports from the Conference, that the Lords had received a Letter from the Council of War in the Army: Which was the very same that was sent to this House; and therefore not read.

Message to Lords.

Sir Rob. Pye went up to the Lords, to acquaint them, that this House does agree to the Points in the Ordinance of Excise delivered by their Lordships at a late Conference; and to desire them to name their Committees, that this House might do the like.

He is likewise to desire them to speed their Answer to the additional Ordinance to the Ordinance of Sequestrations.

Army Affairs.

Mr. Reynolds, Mr. Rous, Mr. Pym, Mr. Cage, Sir H. Mildmay, Mr. Marten, Captain Wingate, Mr. Holland, Sir H. Ludlowe;

This Committee is appointed to receive the particular Informations of the State of my Lord General's Army, from those Officers that are sent with the Letter from the Council of War; and to consider of the best Means of supplying the Defects thereof: They are likewise to eonsider of sending back those Soldiers, that were sent sick from the Army, and are recovered: And are to meet, at the Rising of the House, in the inner Star Chamber.

Answer from Lords.

Sir Rob. Pye brings Answer, that he has delivered the Message concerning the Ordinance of Excise: And that the Lords will take the additional Ordinance to the Ordinance of Sequestrations into a speedy Consideration; and will send Answer by Messengers of their own.

Conferences with Lords.

A Message from the Lords, by Sir Rob. Riche and Mr. Page;

The Lords desire a Conference, by Committees of both Houses, presently, in the Painted Chamber, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, concerning the Ordinances lately sent up for raising and listing of Horses; and touching the Excise.

Answer returned by the same Messengers; that this House has considered their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Mr. Pym, Mr. Reynolds, are appointed Reporters of this Conference.

Mr. Pym reports from the Conference, that the Lords had nominated the said Lords to be the Committee in the Ordinance of the Excise, as were Committees at Haberdashers Hall for Advance of Monies: And that they had appointed a Committee to consider of the additional Ordinance to the Ordinance for Sequestrations, and will send a speedy Answer herein.

Mr. Reynolds reports from the Conference, that the Lords do agree to the Body of the Ordinance for raising and listing of Horses, but they differ in some Matter of Form.

1. Three of the Lords nominated in that Ordinance, have desired to be excused, upon such Grounds as have given that House Satisfaction; and that they have cast the sole Charge of the Horse upon the Earl of Manchester, by Authority from my Lord General.

2. They desire that Sir Miles Hobart may command the Horses under my Lord Manchester, of Norfolk and Suffolk; and Colonel Cromwell the Horse of Cambridgeshire, Isle of Ely and Huntingtonshire.

3. They desire that the Isle of Wight may be omitted in the said Ordinance.

4. They desire that a Proviso may be added to exempt the Horses of the Peers, and the Assistants of the Peers House.

These Amendments were read; and it is

Resolved, &c. That the House doth agree with the Lords in these Amendments to the Ordinance for raising and listing of Horses, &c.

The House would not at this Time, and upon this Occasion of the Publick Defence of the Kingdom, exempt and privilege the Horses of the Members of this House.

Excise.

Resolved, &c. That the Members of this House, that are Committees at Haberdashers Hall, for Advance of Monies, shall be the Committee of this House, to be nominated and appointed by the Ordinance for the Excise.

Removing & Prisoner.

Ordered, That Captain Michael Chadwell, formerly committed Prisoner to Lambeth House, for actual levying War against the Parliament, be forthwith removed thence to the Lord Peter's House; there to remain a Prisoner during the Pleasure of the House.

Ordered, That Leonard Rountree, Servant to Sir Henry Cholmley, shall have Liberty to view such of the Goods that were of late in the * * * *.

Business deferred.

Ordered, That the Ordinance for the weekly Assessments be proceeded in on Monday Morning; and that the Order for Bristoll, and the Order concerning Offices, be likewise proceeded in on Monday Morning.

Defence of Cambridge, &c.

Whereas Information is given this House from the Committees at Huntington and Cambridg, that some considerable Forces of the Enemy are approaching towards the Confines of the Six associate Counties: It is Ordered, by the Commons in Parliament, that the Six associate Counties shall send forthwith, Two thousand Foot to Cambridge, with a Month's Pay for the said Forces; which are to be disposed and employed by the Committee of Association, residing now at Cambridge, for the Defence of the Confines, and Safety of the Six associate Counties; and not to be drawn forth of the said Counties, without the Consent of the Deputy Lieutenants, or any Two or more of them of each County and Place, but in case of Prosecution, or Opposition of an Enemy upon the Confines, that doth invade, or is likely to invade the said Counties. And it is Ordered, That the Deputy Lieutenants, or any Two or more of them, of each County or Place respectively, shall forthwith send their Proportion of the said Two thousand Pounds, according to the Rate agreed on by the Committee of this House for the Association, for their respective Counties, to the Town of Cambridge, to be employed as abovesaid. And it is further Ordered, That the Deputy Lieutenants of the said associated Counties, or any Two or more of them, of each County or Place respectively, shall and may, upon all Occasions, for the Defence of the said associate Counties or Places, or any of them, send such Forces out of their respective Counties, or call unto their Aid such Forces, from the other associate Counties or Places, as they shall think necessary (according to the Rule of Proportion agreed on) for the mutual Defence each of other, and the whole Association.

Insurrection in Kent.

The Houses being informed, that there have been divers unnecessary and prejudicial Delays in forbearing to use the Forces drawn together for the Suppression of the Commotion of divers rebellious Persons in the County of Kent, have thereupon commanded us, in their Names, to give Direction, that you take a speedy and quick Course, by Force in a warlike manner, to suppress and disperse the said rebellious Persons, to seize their Arms, and to proceed against some of the chief Actors by martial Law; and to cause them to be executed upon the Place for a Terror and Example to the rest: Whereunto you are, by these Presents, authorized and commanded, notwithstanding any other Instructions or Directions.

To Sir Henry Vane the elder, Knight; and to the Deputy Lieutenants of the County of Kent; and to Colonel Browne, Colonel Manwaring, and the rest of the Officers of the Forces now employed in the County of Kent; or to any Three of them.