Henry VIII
September 1545, 16-20

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'Henry VIII: September 1545, 16-20', Letters and Papers, Foreign and Domestic, Henry VIII, Volume 20 Part 2: August-December 1545 (1907), pp. 170-181. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=80419 Date accessed: 01 October 2014.


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September 1545, 16-20

16 Sept.387. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 244.
Meeting at Windsor, 16 Sept. Present: Norfolk, Privy Seal, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—Ant. Macuello and Ant. Guarras, Spaniards, had letters to the mayor of Dartmouth for restitution of 3 coffers of linen cloth, and to Chr. Savery, Rog. Croute, and John Hutton, of Totnes, for delivery of 36 pieces of cloth. Jaques le Mieurre, Hans Semer and Marcus de Briatre had passport to pass over sea. Letters written to Sir Edward Braye to prepare to be high treasurer of the army. Letters written to my lord Admiral, at Portsmouth, to restore 17 lasts of herrings to Adrian Gelder, of Flushing, upon caution for their delivery in Biscay; and to the captain of the Mary of Grenewiche to restore a hoy, with herrings, pitch and tar, to Peter de Snygere, because bound to Southampton. John Bernardyne, factor to Matthew Cannoye of Flushing, presenting a supplication of spoil of iron, wine, and soap (specified) by English ships, had letters enclosing it to Ant. Husey for hearing; and John de Gousel, Spaniard, had the like for rice, molasses and almonds. Letters written to the lord Admiral for restitution to Henry Comely, of Flushing, of herrings and pitch belonging to him and John Nuceny, upon caution to deliver it at Southampton. Letters written to Sir Edw. Boughton to prepare "rice faggot, oke and elme saplinges," and lay them at the waterside as shall be directed by Sir Ric. Caundishe, sparing no man's woods, as this is "for a special purpose"; also letters to Fras. Flemming and Ant. Anthony for 20 tons of iron and 40 doz. small baskets.
16 Sept.388. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O.This morning the Margrave of Andwerp sent and arrested in my hands all the money I received of the Fowker. Yesterday I was at Jasper Dowche's house in the country and, coming suddenly, found the Margrave there, who before told me that the Queen commanded him to arrest all valued gold of the Emperor's coin in my hands. I asked him whether I might use such of the King's money as was not in the Emperor's coins, and he answered that I might. And yet, to-day, he has arrested all; "so that in all the days of my life was I never so craftily handled." All proceeds of Jasper Dowche, who one day tells me that it is because the Emperor fears that the King's Almains will spoil the poor people and therefore will see them recompensed, another time that it is to prevent my exporting the Emperor's coin. I think they are more suspicious because I am one of the Mint. If you do anything in Haller's matter I shall likewise have trouble therewith. I am even now going to Bruxelles, with the counsel of the ambassadors, to know of the Queen what is meant hereby. Whether it is to hinder the King's Almains, now at Andernak, or for some other intent, I know not. I have written to the Commissaries but sent them no money, because a post came from them to-day willing me to send them none, "seeing Dymoke's men come not." I will advertise the King how I speed at Court. Antwerp, 16 Sept.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: 1545.
17 Sept.389. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A. P. C., 245.
Meeting at Windsor, 17 Sept. Present: Chancellor, Norfolk, Privy Seal, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre, Bakere. Business:—Letters written to Portsmouth to hasten Sir Thomas Seymour to the Narrow Seas; and to Boulogne to give credence to Sir Ric. Caundishe and admit Sir Henry Palmer, as master of the ordnance, with the place in Council which Sir John Jennyns had.
17 Sept.390. Sabyne Johnson to her husband, John Johnson.
R. O.Glapthorne, 17 Sept. 1545:—Thanks for his letter of the 9th, received on Monday last. "Haryson hayth hym commendyd unto you and sayth that he canot." I have written to my brother (fn. 1) for money for Haryson. My brother Bretan says that you promised to weigh now at Michaelmas about him and to pay money. Pray write to my brother to provide money. To-day I sent two loads of wool to London, including "iij. clothes of end woll."
Hol., p.1. Add.
17 Sept.391. Lisle to Paget.
R. O.I received your letters by bearer, your servant, with such diligence as I wish the ordinary posts would make. Mr. Seymour is very "evill at ease" and had a bad night. I doubt whether he shall be ready for sea as soon as the King's letters import; and conferring with my lord Chamberlain thereupon has delayed my repair to Court, but to-morrow I intend to be with the King and ready to serve. Remember the matter of victuals and carriage for the same; and also that the Almains before all things "will call for gelt, for lack whereof the captains oftentimes bear but little estimation amongst them." I would the King had appointed me to serve in the meanest room under some nobleman of reputation, for all the world knows that I am not of estimation for so weighty a charge. I should do better service as directed than director; for directions in great affairs appertain to such as have great credit and are feared. Southwick, 17 Sept. Signed.
Pp. 2. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1545.
17 Sept.392. Thirlby, Carne, and Vaughan to Paget.
R. O.This afternoon we are appointed to speak with President Score for the arrest of the King's money in Mr. Vaughan's hands. We would gladly know your news there, to satisfy daily inquiries. Bruxels, 17 Sept. Signed: Thorn's Westm': Edward Carne.
P.S.—We retained this messenger until 3 p.m., to advertise you of Score's answer; which was that he would speak with the Queen to-night and give us the answer to-morrow. Signed: Thorn's Westm': Edward Carne: S. Vaughan.
In Thirlby's hand, p. 1. Add. Sealed. Endd.: 1545.
17 Sept.393. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O.Came hither yesternight to counsel with the ambassadors touching the arrest by the Margrave of Andwerp of the King's money in his hands, as he has already signified, and the command given to the Fowker to pay him no more until the Emperor's further pleasure; and they are now waiting to be sent for to the President's house. Notes that Jasper Dowche sometimes says that with this money the Emperor will recompense his people if the Almains now mustering beside Andernack pass through and spoil his Base Countries, sometimes that the Emperor suspects that his coins will be carried into England to be stamped into the King's coins, sometimes that the Emperor will not suffer so great a heap of money to be drawn from his countries. Desires to know what to do if not well handled by the Queen. The King's commissaries wrote yesterday from Andernack that he need not send more money, seeing that Mr. Dymock brings no men. Since writing by Nicholas, has received 11,000 and odd crowns, over and above the 58,000 and odd pounds. Finds the Fowker always ready to pay, "be it by day or night." Suspects that Jasper Dowche is the only doer of all this matter; but it is best not to let his friends in England see that he is suspected. Bruxelles, 17 Sept.
Hol., pp.3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
17 Sept.394. Chamberlain to Thirlby.
R. O.Yesterday the Count Bueren wrote to me by express messenger, unlooked for, to know how many men the King has here levied, whither they should go and what exploit should be done with them. I have made him the answer enclosed, whereby you may see his reasonable request; and if I have not well answered, please make good my lack of further knowledge. Commendations to Mr. Caern and my lady. Andernacke, 17 Sept. 1545. Signed.
P. 1. Add.: ambassador with the Emperor. Endd.
17 Sept.395. Chamberlain to the Count of Buren.
R. O.Has received his letter by bearer, and, as to his request, although reason would that the writer should make the like touching the Emperor's special affairs, will in consideration of his affection to the King satisfy his desire. When all are assembled we shall be near 20,000 footmen and between 1,000 and 5,000 horsemen, who shall be led and employed against none but the King's enemy whom all the world knows, and I am astonished that you ask it, seeing that last year you were on the King's side against the same. I would like your advice as to the enterprise, so as to have occasion to advertise the King of your desire to advance his affairs. "Faict a tandernake," 17 Sept. 1545.
French, p. 1. Endd.: Copie of Mr. Chambrelayns l're to the countie de Bueren.
R. O.2. Another copy.
French, p. 1. Endd.
17 Sept.396. Venice.
Venetian
Calendar
(Brown),
v., No. 358.
Motion passed in the Senate to license importation of hides tanned in England and Turkey, which are the best tanned abroad.
18 Sept.397. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A. P. C., 245.
Meeting at Windsor, 18 Sept. Present: Chancellor, Norfolk, Privy Seal, Essex, Winchester, Gage, Browne, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—John Skill of Bolnam, Nic. Gyll of Thorrok, and Wm. Kent of Vanege, Essex, having lightly slandered Sir Win. Petre and suffered punishment in the Marshalsea, despatched home with letters to the sheriff of Essex and John Poines declaring their repentance, with request to have a good eye to their behaviour hereafter. Mr. Rous and Mr. Mountford returning to Norfolk and Suffolk to haste away provisions for Boulogne, had letters to customers, &c., of Lynne, Ipswich and Yarmouth to pass it free of custom upon bond to bring back the earl of Surrey's certificate of its delivery. Upon information that maltmakers there "deliver forolt malt and give v. for iiii. in their measure," letters were written to Sir Rog. Tounesende and Sir Wm. Paston to warn them that the King would permit no such deceit.
18 Sept.398. Bermondsey.
R. O.Receipt, 18 Sept. 37 Hen. VIII., by Harry Bryand, receiver of all possessions of Barmondesey, Surr., from John Wyseman, of rents of the grange and other lands beside Barmondesey.
Small paper, much mutilated, p. 1.
18 Sept.399. Van der Delft to Mary of Hungary.
Spanish
Calendar,
viii., No. 137.
Winchester and Paget have just come, at supper time, to say that, their coin not being current, the King had agreed with the Fuggers in Antwerp for money to pay his German troops, who were already ordered to pay for everything and to march without doing any injury to the Emperor's subjects; but now the Margrave of Antwerp, by her order, has embargoed the funds; the King of France could not have devised a more annoying obstacle; the King requested him to write instantly to the Emperor or to her to have the embargo raised; it was known sometime ago that this transaction was being conducted through Jasper Doulchy, and we seemed to have waited for the opportunity of causing the greatest inconvenience. Replied that he would write forthwith, and perhaps things were exaggerated. Sends back the courier he detained. Nothing has happened since D'Eick left, save that the Chancellor has arrived at Court, with the principal officers of Chancery and doctors of London. The Admiral comes tomorrow. Knows not what business is in hand. Windsor, 18 Sept. 1545.
18 Sept.400. Hertford and Others to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., v. 521.
In pursuance of our last letters I, the earl of Hertford, on Tuesday last (fn. 2) removed with your army from Kelso to Gedburgh, burning and destroying on either side, and encamped that night within a mile of Gedburgh. Next day, Bowes, with 1,500 light horse, from 5 a.m. till 3 p.m., forayed along the waters of Tyvyote and Rowle, 6 or 7 miles beyond Jedburgh, and burnt 14 or 15 towns and much corn. The same morning, with the rest of the horsemen and some footmen, as the Irishmen and 100 hacquebutiers, Hertford burnt the Abbey, Friars and town of Jedburgh and all the villages within two miles round. Certain gentlemen of Tyvydale, as the larde of Farnyherst's eldest son John Carre, Robert Carre his brother, the lardes of Hunthill, Hundelee and Bonjedworthe and the sheriff of Tevydale, came to Hertford with suit that they and Jedburgh (or at least the corn therein) might be spared, alleging that they were under the King's assurance and had not failed in their bond. Charged them with their untruth in breach of the assurance; but they alleged that they were forced to do as they did by the Governor and authority of the realm, which they could not resist unaided. Finally, as they seemed to desire the union of the two realms, and promised, if defended, to be the King's subjects, Hertford spared their dwelling houses, which, if the King should hereafter fortify Rockesburghe, would serve for the better defence of the country. On Wednesday at 2 p.m., victuals being all spent, the army removed and marched four miles towards Warke, burning the country in their way. Yesterday morning Bowes, with the horsemen, went along the waters of Kayle and Bowbent, burned a great part of East Tyvydale, Hertford sending 100 Irishmen with them, because the Borderers "will not most willingly burn their neighbours." Meanwhile Hertford marched with the army towards Warke, destroying the country for four miles on either side. The Scots have suffered twice as much as they did by the last journey to Edinburgh. The country is very fair, and as plenteous a corn country as any in England; and a wonderful deal of corn is burnt, because, the year being so forward, all was already in stacks or lying in shocks in the fields. Will, when the journey is ended, declare all that has been done.
When the Governor, at Lawder, on Tuesday last, saw the army enter Tyvydale, he thought our frontiers unguarded and sent lord Bothewell, lord Hume, the master of Hume, the abbots of Jedworthe and Dryburghe, with some 2,000 or 3,000 men, including French men of arms and hacquebutiers on horseback, who, on Tuesday at 4 p.m., burnt a town called Horneclyff near Norham. Thereupon the garrisons of Berwik, Norham, Warke, Cornehill, Etill and Forde, 600 or 700 horsemen, and the country men repaired to the fray and chased the Scots over the water, slaying 50 Scots and Frenchmen, and capturing 149 named in a schedule here inclosed. Two of them are Frenchmen of reputation, one of whom was a captain of a certain band of the French men of arms. Sir Robert Constable, one of the captains of the garrisons, did good service.
Arrived here yesternight, and cannot obtain victuals from Berwik until tomorrow night; after which they intend a new invasion into the Mershe. Cannot learn the certainty about Hume castle, which has surely been fortified by the Frenchmen; for Wm. Woodmansee alias English William has broken his promise to come to Hertford. Cannot spend more than 4 or 5 days at it, as plague begins to show in the army, and victuals cannot be depended upon because the water of Twede rises so suddenly; but if it seem impregnable, they will overthrow the peels of Wetherburne, Blacketer and Langton, and so devastate the country that the King will not need such great garrisons on the Borders.
Commend the good service and discipline of the strangers. Desire to know where to bestow them this winter. The scarcity of victuals will prevent their being laid near enough to the frontiers to be of any service; unless some of the English garrisons are replaced by Spaniards hacquebutiers, who should do better service than twice so many English. The Irishmen here might be sent to join the band appointed in Ireland to serve under the earl of Lenoux. Camp at Warkeshaughe, 18 Sept. 1545. Sinned: E. Hertford: H. Kynvet: Rafe Sadleyr: Phelyp Hoby: Robert Bowes.
Pp. 5. Add. Endd.
18 Sept.401. Hertford and Sadler to Paget.
R. O.For their proceedings and intentions, refer to their common letter to the King. The army must be dissolved now within 5 or 6 days, for which they have no money. Have sent to Newcastle for as much as they can borrow, wherewith the captains may despatch their men and tarry themselves for the rest of the money. Beg him to accelerate the sending of money. Payday for the garrisons is within 8 days; and, though the English garrisons might tarry, the strangers should be paid, both for the King's honour and because they have served well. Camp at Warkeshaughe, 18 Sept. 1545. Signed.
P 1. Add. Endd.
19 Sept.402. The Privy Council.
Dasent's
A.P.C., 246.
Meeting at Windsor, 19 Sept. Present: Chancellor, Norfolk, Privy Seal, Essex, Admiral, Winchester, Gage, Brown, Wingfield, Paget, Petre. Business:—Letters written to Ipswich to prepare shipping for 400 men for Boulogne ultimo Septembris. Letters written to Portsmouth for Sir Thos. Clere's immediate departure to the Narrow Seas, where the enemy do much annoyance. Letters written to John Wynter to pay John Johnson for 9 bases taken by Gawen Carewe for the King. Wm. Lachinden and John Boy cot, of Bydenden, Kent, sent from Sir John Gulford and Thos. Wilforde with an accusation of Boycot by Lachinden for lewd words, were, for lack of proof returned home with a warning; and letters were written to Gulford and Wilford not to send up the men in like cases but advertise the matter. Letters sent by Fraunces the Courier and Nicholas, two several ways, to the commissioners of musters of the Almains.
Sept.403. The Privy Council to Fane and Others.
R. O.The King thanks them for their diligence in assembling and marching forward with the army, and wills them likewise to thank Riffenbergh, Buckholt and Aytelwolf. Whereas the said captains covenanted to pass through France to Calays or Boulloyn, and would doubtless adventure themselves to accomplish their covenant, the King now knows that it cannot be done without their utter destruction; and has therefore taken a determination which he requires the Commissaries first to digest and then to induce the said captains to execute, otherwise they shall run headlong to ruin, whereat the King would be right sorry, for he means to employ them next year and many times as occasion shall serve. They are to be told that from the French camp near Boulloyn a good band of men has been sent to destroy the country for three or four days' journey between Boulloyn and them so that it will be impossible for them to come to Boulloyn or Calays; but, as the King has about 16,000 footmen and 3,000 horsemen at Calays to besiege a fortress which the French have made, the latter dare not diminish their force much. Now that you are together about 10,000 footmen and 3,000 horsemen the King desires the same to enter such parts of France as seem best, and to burn, waste, kill and spoil for one month, and then return home. As it will be difficult to convey money to you into France (and here you, Mr. Fane, and the rest must see that their three months are so divided as to include the time of their goinghome) the King desires them to take patience until their return, when, at Confluens, they will find the rest due for their three months. You may promise not to depart from them until they are fully paid. The King will nowise have them come forward to Callays or Boulloyn, but spend the time as aforesaid in Champaigne, the duchy of Burgone and thereabouts.
Finally, they shall do no hurt upon the Emperor's subjects. Doubtless you will take order for the field pieces at your return to Colen or Confluence, or wherever "you shall break the army." In case they like not the above order for payment, let them appoint factors to receive their money.
Draft with corrections and last paragraph by Paget, pp. 14. Endd.: M. of the Counsailles l're to the Commissioners for the musters of th' Allmaynes,—September 1545.
19 Sept.404. Sabyne Johnson to her husband, John Johnson.
R. O.Glapthorne, 19 Sept. 1545:—Trusted that he would have been in Calais ere this, and beshrews them who, by delaying his going, cause him to tarry there in winter. Sends to London now in haste, as Haryson and her brother Breten must have money. Your eight woolwinders "be a ponted to goy thare wayes, sayng that thaye well not worke nomore for 2s. a sacke, for thaye doy not get 4d. a day." Duncarlay set them to work but has not been here this 8 or 10 days. Haryson would not have them go away. They ask 4s. a sack, as they have in London, and to find themselves meat and drink.
Hol., p. 1. Add.: at London.
19 Sept.405. Edward Yaughan to the Council.
R. O.It has pleased God to visit this town with much sickness, and the lord Chamberlain is now in great danger of death, having swooned twice this afternoon. As he always had great doings for the King, and may have treasure of the King's in his hands, write this that the Council may know these things and send hither some expert physician. The lord Chamberlain is very weak and so dry that he can scant move his tongue, yet his heart is so great that he thinks to "wear it out." If he recover, the writer begs that he may not know of his having written this. This town is not yet enclosed, nor the chain drawn over the haven, nor will be these many days, for lack of men; for where one day there are 200 in the works, within two days not 50 of them are able to stand. The writer is himself so light of head and in such a fever that, if he had not thought it his duty, he would be loth to set pen "to the book." Portsmouth, 19 Sept., 8 p.m.
Hol., p,. 1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
19 Sept.406. Hertford and Sadler to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., v. 525
Send a letter just received from Wharton, showing what success has followed of an enterprise by Robert Maxwell, who is taken prisoner. The Scots have had ill luck in their enterprises, and have also been well scourged at home. Take it as God's judgment on their untruth. Ask what to do with Robert Maxwell and the best of the prisoners. Warkeshaughe, 19 Sept., 1545. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
19 Sept.407. Thirlby, Carne and Vaughan to Henry VIII.
R. O.
St. P., x. 593.
Upon the arrest by the Margrave of Antewerpe of the money which Vaughan had received to Henry's use, he repaired to Bruxelles on the 16th, and, because Jasper Duche, who came hither for the same matter, said that President Scory was favourable therein, the writers immediately went to Scory and said that Henry would have cause to marvel that he was forbidden to do what every merchant here does, and the more so as this money was amassed by the help of the Emperor's counsellor Jasper Duche and with the consent of the Regent. Scory answered that the amount of the valued gold was so great that the Emperor's subjects would be thereby spoiled, and it was to be newly coined in England in evil money (and here he discoursed of the value of Henry's new coin, and asked if he himself would be suffered to carry a great mass of angels out of England). Replied that anything might be done in England that was lawful by the treaty, and that this could not be called a spoil, for there was more of Henry's own old coin in this country than he should now have here, and also this must be repaid in money current here. Finally he said that he would declare the matter to the Queen, and further Henry's affairs; and the writers reminded him of the importance of the loss of a single day now in the heat of the war, and that he knew how and why Henry entered "the same wars."
Yesternight, received answer by the President that the Emperor could not suffer valued gold to be exported, but the money might be exported in French crowns, angels, etc., or payments made here in valued gold. Pointed out the delay which would ensue, and said they would learn Henry's pleasure; whereupon the President said that the Emperor's reasons would be signified to his ambassador there. Bruxelles, 19 Sept., 1545. Signed.
Pp. 3. Add. Endd.
19 Sept.408. Thirlby to Paget.
R. O.The answer we have for the arrest of the King's money is written in our common letters to His Highness. A secretary of the Bishop of Rome's and another of the Emperor's are looked for daily with a resolution for the Council at Trident. Ambassadors here begin, upon the death of the duke of Orliaunce, to guess a marriage betwixt the Prince of Spain and the French king's daughter or between the Archduke, son to the King of Romans, with the French king's daughter, and Myllen to be given them; and then the Prince of Piedmont to marry the King of Naver's daughter and have his lands in Piedmont again. As to Savoy, they cannot tell where to leave it, unless in the French king's hands, who will be loath to forego it, now that the hope of Myllen is gone. I am daily wondered at that I can tell no news of our things. Upon Thursday last was one with me for the matter of the jewels, saying that he would complain to the Emperor again, and divers others have been with me, thinking that the Diet continues. I wrote to Mr. Stanoppe, by request of Mr. Matthew Stric, secretary of the Council here and a commissioner for the Diet, to ransom certain Scots alleged to be inhabitants here. His request was only for their ransom, "'for whether the prize be good or no (said he) that shall be determined with the rest of the matters of the Diet.' What he should mean thereby, guess you; for I have heard say that the Emperor had delivered those books of the Diet to be reviewed." Yesternight Secretary Idiacres sent me a request of a Spaniard, praying me to recommend it to you. Bruxels, 19 Sept. 1545.
Commend me to Mr. Peter, and persuade him that this letter is also written to him, "and then I trust to have again; otherwise I fear lest he hath the property of the ambassadors here, that uttereth nothing unless they may have ware for ware."
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
19 Sept.409. Carne to Paget.
R. O.Has nothing to write but what is in their common letter, for he can hear of no occurrents save that Brabande agrees to give the Emperor in aid, before demanded, the sum required, viz., for three or four years, 300,000 gilderns yearly. The whole grant of the Low Countries in the said years amounts to 5,000,000 gilderns; and, over and above, to redeem the impost put by the Emperor at the beginning of last wars, they give the 20th penny of all their rents for three or four years. Commendations to Mr. Secretary Peter. Bruxelles, 19 Sept. 1545.
Hol., p. 1 Add. Endd.
19 Sept.410. Carne to Paget.
R. O.Has just received his letter of the 15th, and thanks him for declaring Carne's letter to the King. As to procuring licence for the sending away of the munition, Mr. Damesell has licence for as much as he required. As to providing oxen out of Carne's country, of such sort as Paget spoke of when here, the best time is the beginning of summer; but they may yet be had, for at Michaelmas is the greatest fair of the year, beside Carne's house. If Paget will send his purveyor with the letter herewith, Carne's brother will help him to buy them; for Carne has none of his own. The purveyor should be there by Michaelmas Eve, for the chief fair is on Michaelmas Day. Would, if warned in time, have had them picked out. The way is from London to Bagshot, Basyngstoke, Andovere, Wermestre, Welles and Upphyll, "and there take passage to Syllye, and there shall ye hear of my brother, or else viij miles thence at a place called Landogh." Bruxelles, 19 Sept. 1545.
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.
19 Sept.411. Vaughan to Paget and Petre.
R. O.My lord of Westminster, Mr. Caern and I, in our general letter, signify to the King Mons. Score's answer, made for the Lady Regent, touching the arrest of his money in my hands, by a serjeant of Andwerp, on the 16th inst. If the King will have me restore to the Fowkers all the valued money and take crowns, angels and other coins instead, I shall agree with the Fowker for the repayment in current money, "as good cheap as I can." "And doubt ye not but if they will needs (as I see no remedy), except the K's Mate do otherwise entreat the Emperor, have me leave behind me the valued gold that I have already received, yet shall they never so clean get it from me but such good portion thereof shall remain behind as shall not mislike you." Andwerp, 19 Sept.
Hol., p. 1. Add. Endd.: 1545.
412. Lisle to Paget.
R. O.Pray remember my suit to the King whereof I spake unto you yesterday. It was commenced before my going to the sea, at his Grace's being at Grenwich, first for a college worth 400l. a year, I offering 1,000 mks. in money and to found a free school in his Majesty's name, which would ask 60l. a year, besides that pensions for term of lives would amountto 140l. or 160l. a year. The King, thinking it a great matter for me to pay so much ready money and so great pensions, answered my friend that it were better for me to have a portion of land; and so my suit has ever since remained unmentioned. Herewith I send the names of certain parcels of land worth 193l. a year. One 100l. of them I must sell to pay my debts, the other 100l. I am ready to sell when commanded to serve again, with all I have besides. "Scribled leyserles wt thilhand of your assured loveing frend John Lisle."
Hol., pp. 2. Add. Endd.: September, 1545.
ii. Site and demesnes of Hales abbey, being leased for many years, 99l. Lordships of Bremyngham, 50l.; Gannoo, 13l., and Kitherminster, 30l. Total, 193l.
P. 1.
20 Sept.413. Victualling of Boulogne and Calais.
R. O.Warrant by the Council in London to the treasurer and chamberlains of the Exchequer, to deliver, towards the victualling of Bullen and Calys, 1,600l. to such persons as shall be authorised to receive it by Stephen bp. of Winchester, Sir John Gage, Sir Ric. Riche, Ant. Rous and John Ryther, or any two of them. London, 20 Sept. 1545. signed by Wriothesley, Bakere and Moyle.
P. 1.
20 Sept.414. Sir George Douglas to Hertford.
R. O.
St. P., v. 527.
Hearing of the troubles Hertford has done and is likely to do in Tividaile and Mers, desires favour for his kinsmen and servants, the lairds of Wedderburn, Blaketer and West Nesbet, and for his lands of Coldinghame and Bonkill. Temtalloun, 20 Sept. 1545. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
R. O.
St. P., v. 533.
2. "Thus is myne opinioun apperandly to bring ye Kinges Mate to his purpos."
(1) To send two armies into Scotland, viz. from Berwick and Dumbertane to meet at Striveling, their victuals coming by sea into the Firth; these armies to remain until the strongholds are won, and gentle proclamations to be made to obtain the hearts of the people. (2) It should be done this year before help may come from France; and Lennox should be with the army in the West, where he is loved and the Governor and Cardinal hated. (3) To give the writer power to assure such noblemen as will assist to the peace and contract of marriage; and let them know before the coming of the armies if their service is to be used. (4) You have been sharp at this time to gentlemen who would have served the King, and you have spared the King's enemies. "Ze man nocht be so scharp to zour favorars gif ze will hef ye service of yame yt standes of gude mynd towart ye Kinges Majesteis effares." (5) Force must be mixed with wisdom; for the King will never recover this country with fire and sword, but with gentle handling of his friends. (6) I will desire no thanks for my service at this time; but it was worth grammercy, for I stopped the whole purpose of your opponents. What will the King's part be towards us, his friends, if troubled for his cause? We can have as great favour as any men in this country by declaring ourselves extreme enemies towards you.
Pp. 3. Endd.: George Dowglasses opynion touching thopteyning of the Kinges Mate purpos in Scotlande, 1545.
20 Sept.415. G. lord Cobham to the Council.
R. O.This day, sent the High Marshal with the men of arms and certain Italian light horse, to discover where the Frenchmen lay; who "cut off the tail of the rearward," slew some, and learnt that the Frenchmen encamp tonight at Seint Martyn's house, and will see Arde revictualled and attempt some exploit upon the Low Country, intending before Sunday next (fn. 3) to dissolve the whole army, "inforce" their garrisons, and make an end for this year. Is, however, advertised by Mr. Wallop that they will tonight encamp upon Ballingham common. Has put Newnham Bridge and the Low Country ready. Callais, 20 Sept. 1545. Signed.
P. 1. Add. Endd.
20 Sept.416. Vaughan to Paget.
R. O.Received today, from Bruxelles, by a servant of my lord of Westminster, a letter from the King's Council, another from Paget, and the third and fourth to Jasper Dowche and Musica. Cannot yet answer in the matter of Jasper Dowche, who is departed towards Bruxelles. Departed yesterday from Bruxelles, where, as Westminster, Caern and he wrote, he had been for counsel concerning the arrest, by a Serjeant of Andwerp, of the money he had received from the Fowker. Today Westminster's servant brought him the Queen's letter to the Margrave for the discharge of the arrest (as he guesses) of all coins not the Emperor's, but the Margrave is out of town until tomorrow. Finds Jasper Dowche a crafty and lewd man. By his contract he acknowledges himself recompensed for his herrings, and now he demands a new restitution. Sends a letter received from Dymock, and also a letter from Musica. Expects, unless the ambassadors speak to the Emperor, that Jasper Dowche will stop some of the money "for his new devised recompense of herrings," who evidently drove this bargain with the Fowker only to claw in his recompense, and never meant his 10 per cent, interest and payment in Carolus to be performed. Will still handle him gently, as hitherto, by advice of the lord Chancellor and Paget.
Left at his house in London a schoolmaster for his children whose name is Cob, whom he prized very highly. Has today received a letter from Cob to the effect that the Bp. of London's chancellor has sent for and examined him, "and intendeth to trouble him, as I conject, for matters of religion." Having found the man of sober, honest and virtuous life and exceptionally well suited for the education of his children and oversight of his house, he begs (if it be a matter wherein it becomes him to be a suitor) that Paget will help Cob. Andwerp, 20 Sept.
Hol., pp.3. Add. Endd.: 1545.
20 Sept.417. Friar Gabriel de Gusman to Charles V.
R.O
St. P., x. 619.
In pursuance of the command which you gave me at leaving Malines I have, as far as possible, declined commissions of the King of France, and it is four months since he sent me to Rome and [the] Council, for the declaration of the King of England, which I immediately declared to your ambassador. I did the same, 23 Aug., with a new command of the King to go to your Court and inform you indirectly of the league in treaty between the Lutherans, the King of England and him, in order to make you more willing to make peace between the Englishman and him. Jointly with this he commanded me at leaving to learn if you would like to join with him against the Englishman, the Church commanding it, as he formerly proposed to you, and adding these two new points, viz.:—1. That he would make peace with the Englishman upon the best conditions he could, being certain that afterwards the Church would command all the Christian kings to chastise the Englishman and deprive him as a heretic; and in this you would be no more noted than the rest, all being at peace with the King of England, and fulfilling the Church's command; and he would contribute equally to the expedition and be content with Calais, Guisnes and Boulogne and the Englishman's renunciation of the claim to his kingdom and the pension. 2. That, if necessary, he would moderate the article of Milan in this manner, that the marriage of the duke of Orleans with the wife that you should give him should be consummated, and he should take possession and be called duke, and sworn your successor, but the duchy should remain yours for life, you giving the duke 100,000 ducats yearly.
And because the time passed for you to advertise your ambassador of your will, and the said ambassador thought that your sending me no command was a sign that I might go, I went; and at the hour of my arrival at Brussels I spoke to the Confessor (fn. 4) to inform you of my arrival and commission. Next day I returned to his chamber for the answer, and he told me that, since the Duke was dead, who was the chief point of my commission, and the rest could best be treated with the King's ambassador, he thought that I ought to return; and so I did. Arriving at this Court I was asked by the King how you took the death of the Duke and the answer to my commission. As to the first I told him with what pain you heard it, and he asked again what I heard of the article of Milan. I told him that it was said in your Court that you would fulfil it. He replied that the contrary was evident, since you had joined to the investiture of Parma and Piacenza two towns of the Duchy of Milan, the names of which I do not remember. As to my commission, I told him that, knowing the death of the Duke, I dared not speak of it, but thought that he should propose it by his ambassadors, since, having war with the Englishman, he might do anything against him, much more, so just a thing as this was; and yesterday he told me that he thought to propose it to you by his ambassadors, and that it would be necessary for me to return thither to speak in his behalf therein to Mons. de Granvela; and I think that they will despatch me on Tuesday or Wednesday. I will not pass from Brussels without your licence, and there, if you give me audience, I will inform you more plainly of these matters, and of many other intrigues in this Court to the danger of the Christian Faith and authority of the Church and your Majesty. Yesterday I saw enter before me into the Council three ambassadors of the Lutherans, viz. Sturmius of Strazburg, Brunus of Metz, and a third, (fn. 5) who is their chief and is of Wittemberg. Just then, Mons de Molenbeque arrived and was taken to another chamber, and kept more than three hours, on the plea that the King was asleep, in order to know the Lutheran embassy before hearing yours. The Cardinal of Turnon went immediately by a false door to the King and returned to them half an hour later; and I saw that they sent to call the treasurer of the espargne to Council, I think for money, and by a window opening upon the garden, where I and many others were, I saw writings pass between them written by the hand of Bayart. I ascertained that there are as many others in England, and knew from Bayart that he was pleased with their embassy. He has such need of peace with the Englishman that, unless God enlighten him, he may commit some blunder (cegnedad) like the calling of the Turk. Amians, Sunday, 20 Sept. 1545.
Spanish. Copy, pp. 3. Endd.: The copy of Frere Gabrieles l're to th'Emperor.

Footnotes

1 Otwell Johnson.
2 Sept. 15.
3 Sept. 27th.
4 Pedro de Soto.
5 Christopher von Fenningen, marshal of Wirtemberg. See No. 48.