House of Commons Journal Volume 2
12 August 1641

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'House of Commons Journal Volume 2: 12 August 1641', Journal of the House of Commons: volume 2: 1640-1643 (1802), pp. 252-253. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=8129 Date accessed: 02 September 2014.


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Die Jovis, 12 Aug. 1641.

PRAYERS.

Hollyman's Petition.

THE humble Petition of Wm. Hollyman of Norton, within the Bishoprick of Durham, was this Day read.

Leave of Absence.

Mr. Rigby has Leave to go into the Country the next Week.

Sir Rich. Buller has Leave.

Walrond's &c. Petition.

The humble Petition of Humphrey Walrond, Esquire, and others, was this Day read; and ordered to be taken into further Consideration To-morrow Morning at Eight of Clock.

Capuchins.

Smyth, that apprehended a Frenchman, a Priest, was called in: Who, being demanded concerning that Matter, says, that he apprehended .. by force of a general Warrant from this House; but he knows not what Countryman he is, or whether he be the Queen's.

Joseph Allen, a Witness, says, that the Frenchman, that was apprehended for a Priest, is very well known about the Town, and so well, that he cannot go about the Town, but the People, as he passes, cry out upon him for a Priest; he cannot say, that ever he saw him, or heard him say Mass; but he has seen him often to go into many Houses: And upon * * * *

Ordered, Sir Ph. Stapleton shall go with this Message to the Lords; to desire a Conference concerning this Capuchin, now apprehended; and concerning the Dissolution of the Convent of the Capuchins, and the Sending of them all clearly out of the Kingdom; and this particular Capuchin is enjoined to attend the Committee for Recusants convict, at all such times as the said Committee shall require.

Articles against Piercy, &c.

According to an Order Yesterday made, this House proceeded to the Consideration of the Articles against Mr. Piercy, Mr. Jermyn, &c.

And the Votes of the House, upon those Articles, were read. -

Treaty with Scotland.

A Message from the Lords, by Serjeant Whittfield and Sir Edw. Leech;

The Lords desire, if it may stand with the Conveniency of this House, that they may have a free Conference, by a Committee of both Houses, concerning the final Conclusion of the Treaty.-

Articles against Piercy, &c.

Ordered, That the House shall return, after the Conference ended, and immediately resume the Business concerning the Articles against Mr. Piercy, Mr. Jermyn, &c: And the Members are enjoined to return, and to attend the Service of the House.-

Disbanding Armies.

Answer returned by the same Messengers;

This House has considered of their Lordships Message; and will give a present Meeting, as is desired.

Ordered, That the Reporters of the Conference with the Lords, had Yesterday, concerning the Disbanding of the Armies, shall be Reporters of this Conference.

Articles against Piercy, &c.

According to the Order before the Conference, the House resumed the Consideration of the Articles against Mr. Piercy, Mr. Jermyn, Sir Jo. Sucklin, &c.

And the Articles were all read; and, after long Debate, it was

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Jo. Suckling, upon the whole Matter, shall be charged by this House with High Treason.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. H. Piercy, upon the whole Matter, shall be charged by this House with High Treason.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Mr. H. Jermyn, upon the whole Matter, shall be charged by this House with High Treason.

Ordered, That Mr. Chidley shall not go down to the Army To-morrow, but attend the Commands of this House: And that after To-morrow he may go upon his own Occasions.

Ordered, That the Business of the Articles against Mr. Piercy, Mr. Jermyn, &c. shall be resumed To-morrow Morning at Nine of Clock.

Commrs to Scotland.

That that Part of the Report that concerns the Sending of Commissioners into Scotland * * * *

House to sit.

That the House shall sit at Five of Clock this Afternoon.

Post Meridiem.

Crake's Petition.

THE humble Petition of Michael Crake, was read; and nothing done upon it.

Leave of Absence.

Sir Tho. Widdrington has Leave to go into the Country.

Remonstrances on State of the Kingdom, &c.

Ordered, That Mr. Pym, Mr. Hampden, Mr. Strode, Sir Jo. Colepeper, bring in the Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom, on Saturday Morning next: And Mr. Fines, Sir H. Vane, the Remonstrance of the State of the Church at the same time.

Person committed.

Resolved, upon the Question, That Sir Rich. Minshall shall be committed to the Custody of the Serjeant, there to remain till this House shall take further Order therein.

Treaty with Scotland.

Sir Tho. Widdrington reports the last Conference had with the Lords, concerning the final Conclusion of * * *

1. The Suppressing of all Books already ordered.-

Resolved, That a publick Thanksgiving shall be made, on the 7th of September next, for the happy Conclusion of this Peace.-

2. The time that the Army would be over the Tweed, would be the 25th of August.- Left it to this House whether the Twenty-six or Twenty-seventh.

Concerning the Arms of Newcastle, Two Papers read.

The Treaty was confirmed here in England; and it was agreed, that reciprocally it should be confirmed in Scotland.

The Lords inclined to send some Commissioners to see Performance of it there; and propounded, whether this House inclined to the same.

The Passing through Berwick, the Lords inclined to it; so there might pass no more Force through at a time, than the Governor of Berwick, and the Commanders there, shall think fitting.

They desired to be discharged against the Country for so much Money as Durham, Northumberland, and Newcastle, were contented to forbear, as this House undertook to satisfy the Country: And, for all other Monies that shall appear to be due to the several Countries, and Town of Newcastle, they are willing, and do promise and engage themselves, to satisfy them.

Lastly, the Earl of Bristoll said, he had Leave from the Lords to desire Pardon, if he had committed any thing by misunderstanding in the Matter of the Treaty, in which he had used his best Care and Diligence; and desired the good Opinion of both Houses.

3. Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that the Scotts shall have time till the 25th of August next, to pass over the Tweed.

4. Resolved, upon the Question, That this House holds it fit, that all the Ordnance, Arms, and Ammunition, either of the King's or the Subjects, that were taken by the Scotts at the Town of Newcastle, should be either restored or paid for: And, that to this Purpose, that the Lords be desired to appoint the English Lords Commissioners to move the [Scotts Commissioners.

That the Proposition concerning the Passing of the Scotts Soldiers through Berwick shall be assented unto, in the same manner as it is assented unto by the Lords.