Journal, January 1716
January 3. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Molesworth, Mr.
Chetwynd, Mr. Docminique.
Memorial from Mr. Oldmixon Consulship of Madera.
A memorial from Mr. Oldmixon [fo. 249] in behalf of Mr. Miles
relating to the Consulship of Madera, praying that the said Miles
may be appointed Vice Consul there, was read, and directions given
for acquainting the said Oldmixon that since the report of this
Board, upon the first reference of that matter there has been nothing
relating thereunto before their Lordships.
Governors letter reconsidered.
Palatine papers to be looked out.
Upon further consideration of Brigadier Hunters letter to the
Secry. of the 10th of October which was read the 28th of the last
month [fo. 309, 312]; ordered that the several papers relating to
the imploying of several Palatines at New York in the production
of Naval Stores be looked out.
Extracts of Consuls letters to be made, as relate to our woollen trade.
Ordered likewise that the several letters &c. lately recd, from
divers of His Majesty's Consuls abroad be inspected and extracts
of such parts thereof made [fo. 312] as relate to the increase or decay
of our Woollen Trade, and laid before the Board tomorrow morning.
January 4. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Molesworth, Mr.
Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke,
Letter from Mr. Martyn about difficulty of supplying the Board with the accounts desired.
A letter from Mr. Martyn Inspector General of His Majesty's
Customs, dated the 29th of the last month, representing the difficulty
of furnishing their Lordships with the accounts last desired from
him [fo. 307, 314] of the Woollen Manufactures exported was read;
whereupon ordered that he be acquainted that the Board did not
intend to give him so great a work as he mentions, and therefore
only desire at present the quarterly accounts of the quantities of
the long, short and Spanish cloths exported from London and the
out Ports in the year 1714.
Letter to Mr. Lowndes about Inspector General's books of imports and exports.
Ordered that the Secry. write to Mr. Lowndes to move the Lords
Commrs. of the Treasury, that this Board may have the use of the
several books made up by the Inspector General of the Imports
and Exports of the Customs [fo. 322.]
British Consuls extracts of their letters considered.
Then the extracts ordered yesterday to be prepared of the letters
from several British Consuls in foreign parts [fo. 310] relating to
our Woollen Trade were read, and a progress made in the consideraion thereof.
Several papers [fo. 310, 315] relating to the Palatines designed
to be employed in producing naval stores at New York, as mentioned
in the minutes of the last meeting being laid before the Board
directions were given for preparing the draught of a repn. upon
January 5. Present:— Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Molesworth, Mr.
Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Docminique.
Trade and fishery.
Letters from the Mayors of Bydeford and Barnstable.
A letter from the Mayor of Bydeford of the 13th of Decr, past
with the proposals of the merchants &c. of that place [fo. 296], in
answer to the Circular Letter writ to him and the Mayors of other
Western Ports, the 3rd of the same month, relating to the Trade and
Fishery of Newfoundland, were read; as likewise a letter from the
Mayor of Barnstable, dated the 27th of Decr., 1715, signifying the
concurrence of the merchants and others there, with the forementioned proposals from Bydeford, and their Lordships resolved
to take the same into further consideration with the answers that
shall be received from the other ports.
2d. letters to Governors of Companys about present state of our Woollen cloth trade.
Ordered that letters be writ [fo. 307, 314] to Sir John Ward Govr.
of the Hamburgh Company, Sir Benjamin Ayloffe, Govr. of the
Muscovia Company, and to the Deputy Govr. of the Turkey Company, to remind them of the Boards desire of an account of the
present state of the Woollen Cloth Trade, and the reasons of the
decay thereof, as also further to signifye their Lordships desire of
the several answers from the said gentlemen in writing on Tuesday
or Wednesday morning next, or in case they cannot be ready so
soon, that they will please to inform the Board when the said
answers may be expected.
January 10. Present:—Mr. Molesworth, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Cooke, Mr. Docminique.
Letter from Deputy Governor of Turkey company.
Woollen cloth trade.
A letter from Sir Gerard Conyers Deputy Govr. of the Turkey
Company in answer to those writ him the 23rd of Decr. and 5th
instant [fo. 313] for an acct. of the Woollen Cloth Trade, and the
reasons for the decay thereof, was read.
Letters to Mayors of out ports.
Ordered that letters be prepared to the Mayors of such of the
Out Ports as have not returned answers to the letters writ them the
3rd of the last month [fo. 296] relating to the Trade and Fishery
of Newfoundland to remind them of the said letters and desire their
respective answers with all dispatch; whereupon letters being
accordingly prepared to the Mayors of Exeter, Plymouth, Dartmouth, Weymouth, Poole, Foway and Bristol, the same were
agreed and ordered to be sent.
Letter from Mr. Martin with account of exports.
An account from Mr. Martyn [fo. 311], (Inspector General of the
Customs) of the long, short and Spanish cloths exported quarterly
in the year 1714, as had been desired of him the 4th instant, was
laid before the Board and read, as likewise his letter dated this day
transmitting the same.
January 12. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Molesworth, Mr.
Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Docminique.
Draught of representation.
The draught of a repn. upon Brigadier Hunter's letters relating
to the production of naval stores at New York [fo. 312], was read,
and a progress made in the consideration thereof.
Letter to Mr. Martyn for account of pitch tar and masts imported &c.
Ordered that the Secry. write to Mr. Martyn Inspector General
of the Customs [fo. 335], to desire that of his acct. of pitch tar and
masts imported into this Kingdom from Christmas, 1706, to Christmas, 1714, he will distinguish to the Board what part of the said
species were imported to London, what to Bristol, and what to the
other Out Ports from the plantations.
Captain Taverner summoned.
Ordered that Capt. Taverner, who is lately arrived from Newfoundland be desired to attend the Board at eleven of the clock tomorrow
January 13. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Molesworth, Mr.
Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Docminique.
Taverner at the Board.
Draught of harbours.
Account of trade and fishery.
Captain Taverner, who has been imployed in surveying the late
French part of Newfoundland [fo. 80] attending, communicated
to the Board the draught he has made of the harbours and sevl.
islands there, upon which their Lordships desiring to receive from
him what information he could give concerning the Trade and
Fishery of those parts and putting several questions to him, he
acquainted ym. that he himself had taken possession of all the late
French part of Newfoundland, except Placentia, where Lieut. Govr.
Moody now resides—that the French inhabitants mostly removing
to Cape Breton, there were but few of them remaining about Newfoundland—that notwithstanding those who remained had taken
the Oaths of Fidelity to His Majesty King George, they had not only
their goods but servants and fresh men to imploy in the Fishery
from France, and that His Majesty's subjects of Guernsey, who use
the Newfoundland Trade, have likewise all their lines and fishing
tackle from St. Malo, on account of the neighbourhood of that place,
and those things being somewhat cheaper there than ours; tho'
he added, that he did not doubt but the people of Guernsey were
likewise concerned with the merchants of St. Malo in their loadings
of fish—that the French come and fetch furs from Newfoundland;
and so many of their ships fish within the limits prohibited them by
the late Treaty, that had he had authority, he could have seized
twenty five or more of them, whilst our men of war were chiefly
about the ancient English part of the Island—and he said further
in relation to the French, that he understood the Fishery had been
but bad at Cape Briton this last year, and that many people, who
had settled there were removed to Canada—being then particularly
asked if great numbers of our own fishermen and seamen were not
debauched and carried away to New England without returning
to Great Britain as required by Act of Parliament, and in relation
to the selling or hiring of cook rooms and stages &c. at Placentia,
as also concerning the manner of carrying on the Trade to Newfoundland from the western ports of England and what abuses he knew
therein; he said that near one third part of the fishing ships men
go to New England, whereby the masters of those ships save the
charge of their passage back and the men get greater wages—and
as to Placentia, he said he was there in August last, that he understood Col. Moody had bought some of the French plantations there
by vertue of the Queens letter allowing the French to sell their
immoveable effects—that there were in that harbour last year a
great many vacant stages, and not such a number of ships, as to
occasion their hiring any stages or rooms; but being further pressed
to let the Board know whether the merchants or others did not pay
for conveniences there, he answered he believed some of them might
—that Col. Moody had four boats himself last year.
Taverner to bring the Board this account in writing with further observations.
Their Lordships then asking his opinion touching the benefit or
disadvantage to the publick by having or not having any number
of inhabitants at Newfoundland, he declared that he thought the
having inhabitants there was a benefit, for that they were cloathed
and chiefly supported with all necessaries from this Kingdom—that
none of the ships belonging to the western ports of England, except
Bydeford and Barnstable, trading to Newfoundland, depend intirely
upon fishing, but take as many passengers and what freight they
could with some goods of their own, and relied on the chance of the
Fishery to make good their voyage, carrying as few seamen or fresh
men at their own charge as they can—that Bydeford and Barnstable
carry indeed their complement both of seamen and fresh men but
generally return with few, and depending altogether on the Fishery
they carry little besides their tackle and butter—but that the ships
of these two last mentioned ports afford their fish cheaper by reason
of their method of hiring their men by shares of fish and not by
wages in money, as has been the practice with others since the late
wars with France—that the price of fish last year at St. Peters was
35 rials per quintal and at St. Johns from 38 to 28—that there were
few of our ships had yet gone to those parts of Newfoundland lately
possessed by the French, the ships of Poole commonly frequenting
the north part, those of Bristol about Carbonier, of Dartmouth
about the Bay of Bulls, of Bydeford and Barnstable about Renouse
and Fermouse, to which places they return an account of utensils
they leave there—that a great grievance to the Fishery at Newfoundland is the Fishing Admiral taking no case to redress irregularities or prevent the depredations frequently committed, and he
referred their Lordships to some former remarks relating to the
English settlements there, and the heads of an Act drawn up by
him for incouraging that Trade and Fishery delivered to the Board
in 1713–14, whereupon their Lordships ordered him a copy thereof,
and desired he would add or alter what he thought necessary therein,
and bring to the Board on Friday morning next in writing [fo. 322]
the substance of what he had now said with his particular observations upon the places yielded to us by the French, what abuses
are committed there if any, and his opinion what may be done to
make those places of benefit to this Kingdom.
Captain Taverner being withdrawn, their Lordships upon consideration of some matters relating to the production of naval stores
in His Majesty's Plantations and the importation thereof from
thence, gave directions for writing to Joseph Pace Esqr., Mr. John
Lloyd, Mr. Samuel Baker, Mr. Joseph Lowe, Mr. Andrew Funnel,
Mr. Richd. Hackshaw, and Mr. Thomas Sandford [fo. 324], to
acquaint them that the Board desire to speak with them upon that
subject at ten of the clock on Wednesday morning next.
January 17. Present:—Mr. Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth Junior.
Joseph Addison, John Molesworth, Esqrs.
A new commn. from His Majesty dated the 5th day of this
instant January, 17 15/16 was opened and read, whereby (besides
the great officers of State, as in the last commn. for this Board) the
Rt. Honble. the Earl of Suffolk and Bindon, Sir Jacob Astley knight
and Bart. John Cokburne, John Chetwynd, Charles Cooke, Paul
Docminique, Joseph Addison, and John Molesworth Esqrs. are
appointed Commrs. for promoting the Trade of this kingdom, and
for inspecting and improving His Majesty's Plantations in America,
and Mr. Addison and Mr. Molesworth being present took their places
at the Board accordingly.
Letter from Taverner Answer.
A letter from Capt. Taverner to the Secry. desiring the several
particulars to which the Board expect his answers concerning the
Trade and Fishery of Newfoundland [fo. 320, 353], was read, and
an answer to the said letter, being prepared the same was agreed
and ordered to be sent.
Letter from Mr. Carkesse.
A letter from Mr. Carkesse, Secry. to the Commrs. of His
Majesty's Customs, of the 12th instant [fo. 311], with an account
from the Searchers Office of the Woollen Manufactures exported
in the years 1711 and 1712, was read.
Letter from Major Caulfield.
A letter from Major Caulfield Lieut. Govr. of Annapolis Royal
in Nova Scotia, to the Board dated the 1st of November last, was
read, and the papers therewith transmitted, laid before the Board,
Copy of a letter from the savages of Penobscot and St. Johns,
written by their priest, to Major Caulfield, Lt. Govr. of Annapolis
Royal, with his answers.
Draught of the Bay of Fundy.
Draught of Cape Breton.
Order of Council.
The copy of an Order of Council of the 5th of Decr. upon a
repn. from this Board of the 30th of Novr., 1715 [fo. 287], for confirming An Act of Antigua, to enable Baptist Looby &c. to sell lands
in that Island, was read.
January 18. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Cooke, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth.
Mr. Pace &c.
at the Board.
Mr. Pace with several other merchants [fo. 321] trading to New
England, and other His Majesty's plantations where naval stores
are produced, attending, as they had been desired, the 13th instant,
their Lordships had some discourse with them concerning the
quality &c. of the species of stores undermentioned, in which the
said gentlemen acquainted the Board, that the tar made in New
England is not so good for ropes as that from Carolina and Virginia;
in New England they make a great deal from knots and roots of
wood, but that which they make from trees, is very good, the
difference of which may be easily known in the barrils—that the
New England tar being more watery than the Swedish is less worth
by 20 per cent., tho' New Engld. improves in that manufacture,
which is seldom kept long when imported here, the Navy Board
having bought some of it—that for masts those from Riga and
Gottenburgh are esteemed the best in the World, and those from
New England next, but that in New England there are trees called
Apple pines whereof mast might be made equal in goodness to the
very best, but because of the great weight of them are not brought
hither—that the turpentine made in New England, is better than
that from France, and the importation of it into this kingdom is
much increased; they added that the price of freight from Gottenburgh to Great Britain was about fifteen and from New England
about forty five shillings per tun for Boards and plank.
Mr. Pace &c. to bring their thoughts in writing thereupon.
Mr. Pace and the other gentlemen were then desired to let their
Lordships have as soon as they could in writing what they had now
mentioned on the subject of naval stores, together with what they
judged proper for facilitating and incouraging the importation of
the said stores into this Kingdom from His Majesty's Plantations,
which they accordingly promised.
January 19. Present:—Mr. Chetwynd, Mr. Cooke, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth.
Mr. Mills attending, and his Powers of Attorney from several of
the sufferers by the French Invasion of Nevis being examined at
the Board, the Seven Debentures numbered as follows were delivered
to him vizt., 487, 523, 530, 534, 552, 566, 573.
Petition about salary.
Admiralty's reasons against that office.
Letter to Mr. Lowndes.
Mr. Bridger Surveyor General of His Majesty's Woods on the
Continent of America, attending [fo. 236], presented to their Lordships a petition setting forth that there is a stop put to the payment
of his salary at the Navy Board, by Order from the Lords of the
Admiralty, who have sent their reasons to the Lords of His Majesty's
Treasury against the continuance of any Commission for a Surveyor
of the Woods as aforesaid, and praying the interposition of this
Board, that he the said Bridger may be enabled to pursue the intent
of his Commission which their Lordships have thought necessary,
was read; whereupon a letter to Mr. Lowndes [fo. 330], desiring
him to move the Lords of the Treasury for copies of the said reasons,
was agreed and ordered to be sent.
January 20. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Cooke, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth.
Memorial from the Turkey Company.
Woollen cloth trade.
Letter to Deputy Governor.
Sir Gerard Conyers Deputy Govr. and several members of the
Levant or Turkey Company attending, presented to their Lordships
a memorial in answer to the letter writ to the said Deputy Govr.
the 20th of the last month [fo. 307], for an account of the present
state of the Woollen Cloth Trade, and the reasons of the decay
thereof, which was read and the said gentlemen being withdrawn
ordered that a letter be writ to Sir Gerard Conyers [fo. 330], to
desire he will let this Board have on Tuesday next an account of
the cloth exported by the Turkey Company annually for three
years ending at Christmas last.
Letter to Mr. Martyn.
Raw silk from Leghorn.
Ordered likewise that Mr. Martyn [fo. 329] Inspector General of
His Majestys Customs be desired to give their Lordships on Tuesday
next if possible, an account of the raw silk imported from Leghorn
annually in three years ending at Christmas last.
Memorial from the Muscovy Company.
A memorial from the Muscovia Company, relating to the decay
of our Woollen Trade, in answer to the letter writ to their Govr.
[fo. 307] the 23rd of the last month, and concerning the abuses in
packing of hemp in the Czar's Dominions was read.
Memorial Hamburgh Company.
And a memorial from the Hamburgh Company [fo. 307], relating
to the state of their trade, was read.
January 24. Present:—Mr. Chetwynd, Mr. Cook, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth.
Mr. Gaudy attending [fo. 286], presented to their Lordships two
printed maps from the draughts he made last year, the one describing Placentia, and the other the Coast of Newfoundland, from the
Bay of Bulls to little Placentia, as likewise the Harbour of Trepassey, which were ordered to be kept with the draughts and other
maps in this office.
Raw silk from Leghorn.
An account [fo. 328] from the office of the Inspector General of
the Customs, shewing the quantity of raw silk annually imported
from Leghorn in three years, ending at Christmas last, as had been
desired of Mr. Martyn the 20th instant, was read.
Letter from Deputy Governor of Turkey Company.
Letter to him.
A letter [fo. 328] from Sir Gerard Conyers, Deputy Govr. of the
Turkey Company, dated this day, with an account of the cloth
exported by them in three years, ending at Christmas last as desired
the 20th instant, was likewise read; whereupon ordered, that the
Secry. further desire to know of him, what proofs there are of any
quantities of Turkey raw silks [fo. 335] being exported from Marseilles to Leghorn, and from thence to this Kingdom, as set forth
in the memorial received from him, and other members of the
Company on Friday last.
January 25. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Cooke, Mr. Docminique.
Letter from Mr. Kelsall.
Reasons against Surveyor of the woods.
A letter from Mr. Kelsall [fo. 326] of the 21st instant, transmitting
by order of the Lords of the Treasury, the copy of a letter from the
Admiralty, relating to the reasons for not continuing a Surveyor
of His Majesty's Woods on the Continent of America, was read,
together with the said copy.
Letter from Sir Matthew Dudley.
Masts and ship timber.
Letter to the Treasury.
A letter from Sir Matthew Dudley, dated this day, relating to
the preservation and production of masts and ship timber in New
England, and other parts of His Majesty's Plantations in America,
together with the copy of a letter to Mr. Usher late Lieut. Govr.
of New Hampshire dated the 2nd of November last, relating to the
waste committed in the Woods in those parts, were read; whereupon directions were given for preparing a letter to the Lords of
His Majesty's Treasury [fo. 335] relating to that matter.
Letter to Attorney General about remedying abuses in that trade.
Ordered that a letter [fo. 336] be writ to Mr. Attorney General
for his opinion as soon as may be, whether to remedy the abuses
committed against the Act of Parliamt. past in the 10th and 11th
years of the reign of His late Majesty King William, to incourage
the Trade to Newfoundland, it may be necessary that a New Act
of Parliament be passed with penalties. Whether His Majesty's
Proclamation may be sufficient in this case, or what other method
he can propose to remedy the said evils.
January 26. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Docminique, Mr. Molesworth.
Mr. Lechmere and Banister.
Captain Jones best masts from New England.
bear 3 East India voyages.
Mr. Lechmere and Mr. Banister, with several New England merchants, as likewise Captain Jones and others concerned in masting
of ships &c. attending, they presented to their Lordships a memorial
for further incouraging the production of Naval stores [fo. 233, 334],
in His Majesty's Plantations, and importing the same into Great
Britain, which was read, as likewise three certificates of the goodness
of masts, and in discourse these gentlemen said, that as to the
raising of hemp, there was little land fit for it, in the province of
the Massachusets Bay; but that the province of Main, which is
yet unsettled, was very proper for it, and that if the inhabitants
were obliged to pay their taxes in that commodity, they would
the readier be induced to set about it—that the chief difference
between the Naval stores from America, and those from the Northern
Crowns, was in the price of freight, and that the premium or incouragement for Naval Stores to be brought from His Majesty's
Dominions, ought to be proportioned according to the difference
of freight from thence and the Baltick, and for plank and deals
regard ought to be had to their fineness—Captain Jones, a mast
maker, also presented to the Board a certificate from himself, relating
to the goodness of masts from New England, in comparison with
those from Denmark and Norway, &c. which was read; and he
further said, that from twenty inches diameter and upwards, he
would give a better price for New England masts than any other—
that the countries of Gottenburgh, and about Riga, where he
formerly resided, were near exhausted of masts, and that among
forty which grew there, he had found not above five fit for service,
but that he had known masts of New England bear three East
India voyages [fo. 341]—Capt. Jones then offering to add something
to his forementioned certificate, the same was delivered to him,
which he promised to return in a few days.
Mr. Bridger proposal.
Mr. Bridger then attending presented to their Lordships some
proposals [fo. 332] for the improvement of Naval stores in America,
which were read.
January 31. Present:—Sir Jacob Astley, Mr. Chetwynd, Mr.
Cooke, Mr. Docminique, Mr. Addison, Mr. Molesworth.
Letter from Mr. Stanhope about direction to be sent thither.
Letter to Mr. Attorney General pressing for answer to a former.
A letter from Mr. Secretary Stanhope, of the 26th instant, desiring
the thoughts of this Board in relation to such directions as His
Majesty's service may require to be given about the Isle of May,
Newfoundland and Annapolis Royal [fo. 288, 338, 371], was read;
whereupon ordered that Mr. Attorney Genl. be desired to give his
answer tomorrow morning, if possible, to the letter writ him the
25th of this month, concerning abuses committed at Newfoundland
contrary to Act of Parliament.
Letter to Treasury.
Surveyor of the Woods.
The draught of a letter [fo. 331, 339] to the Lords Commrs. of
His Majesty's Treasury, relating to the Office of Surveyor of His
Majesty's Woods on the Continent of America, directed to be pre
pared the 25th instant, was read, and a progress made in the consideration thereof.
Inspector's account pitch, tar, masts.
An account from the Office of the Inspector General of His
Majesty's Customs [fo. 315] shewing the quantities of pitch, tar
and masts imported from His Majesty's Plantations to London,
Bristol, and the other Out Ports from Christmas, 1706 to Christmas,
1714, as desired, the 12th instant was laid before the Board.