Volume 153
October 8-31, 1712

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'Volume 153: October 8-31, 1712', Calendar of Treasury Papers, Volume 4: 1708-1714 (1974), pp. 430-436. URL: http://british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=84960 Date accessed: 26 July 2014.


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October 8–31, 1712

Oct 8.1. Memorial of the Treasurer of the Navy for 17,500l. for paying off and laying up at Chatham her Majesty's ship, the “Norwich.” Dated 8 Oct 1712.
Minuted:—“L~re signed 10 Oct. 1712.” 1 page.
Oct. 9.2. Secretary-at-War (Wyndham) to William Lowndes, Esq. Returns the memorial of James Brydges, Esq., touching the reduced officers of several regiments, and their title to half-pay. Dated Whitehall, 9 Oct. 1712.
The memorial, a list of the regiments disbanded, and another paper on the same subject. 5 pages.
Oct. 14.3. Certificate of the Controllers of Army Accounts as to three days' pay to General Steuart's regiment in the year 1709. Dated 14 Oct. 1712. 1 page.
Oct. 14.4. “Navy memorial for 30,000li. to pay the new course & lost ships.”
Minuted:—“Orderd.”
Similar memorial for 18,800li. to pay off the “Portsmouth” and “Strombelo.”
Minuted:—“17 Oct. 1812. Ordered.” Both dated 14 Oct. 1712. 2 pages.
Oct. 15.5. Secretary-at-War to Mr Lowndes. Sends for the countersignature of the Lord High Treasurer, the establishment for the hospital of Dunkirk signed by her Majesty, as proposed by the Duke of Ormond. Dated Whitehall, 15 Oct. 1712.
The establishment referred to. 2 pages.
Oct. 15.6. “Grants in parliamt for services under the care of James Brydges, Esqr: payments thereupon & the complemts remayning.” Dated 15 Oct. 1712. 2 pages.
Oct. 15.7. Report of the Attorney General (Northey) to the Lord High Treasurer on the proposals made by the Royal African Company, relating to the extent issued against them on the bonds of Fletcher Albert, by virtue of which extent the sheriffs were in possession of their house and books; also on a letter of Sir John Packington on the same business. Was of opinion that the security offered by the company might be accepted. Dated 15 Oct. 1712.
Proffer of security, the proposal, copy of Sir John Packington's letter, and two other letters on the same subject.
Minuted:—“17 Oct. 1712. My Lord will hear both sides on Tuesda & Mr Attor. & Mr Sollr are to be here then. Send notice.”
Again:—“21 Oct. 1712. Mr Att., Mr Sollr, ye Commrs for Taxes, African Compa, Albert, & many others called in.”
In the Minute Book, Vol. XVII., p. 290, is a report of the examination of the persons concerned, concluding:—“The partys or their attorneys are to meet together & to state all the facts in writing, and if either p[er]ty has any new proposal to make, it is to be put in writing; and they are to attend Mr Attorney & Mr Sollr therewith, with all speed, who will make report thereupon to his Lop.” 10 pages or parts of pages.
Oct. 16.8. Sir W. Wyndham to Wm Lowndes, Esq. Sends copy of a petition presented to her Majesty on behalf of a great number of soldiers lately disbanded and lying about the street. Her Majesty, seeing the prejudice it may be to her service to suffer such objects to be neglected and become a burthen, as well as an offence to the town, recommends the Lord High Treasurer to give directions for the immediate meeting of the Comrs for Chelsea Hospital in order to examine their pretensions to the benefits of the hospital, and to make provision for them, Dated Whitehall, 16 Oct. 1712.
Minuted:—“21 Oct. 1712. Speak to Sr Wm Windham to know what objection he has to their being continued on the est[ablishment] of the regimt to wch they belonged till further order. Write to Sr Wm to be here to-morrow 22th do, and to know what allowance may be proper to send home those that belonged to regimts that are broke to the Comrs of the Hospll to examine the qualificac[i]ons of every one, and to certifie to what regts they respectively belonged, and to make a returne imediatly. The Secry-at-War to write to ye Genll that the men sent over hither must be a charge to the respective regts, till there be room in the hospll.” 1½ pages, quarto.
Oct. 16.9. Comrs for Sick and Wounded to Mr Lowndes. Had inquired of the Treasurer of the Navy as to the rates of exchange for bills drawn on that office from Barbadoes, Boston, New York, and Antigua, and found that those from Barbadoes were drawn at 25 per cent. and those from New England and Antigua at 45, whilst their (the Comrs') bills were drawn at 10 per cent., they having contracted with Mr Keysham, a Barbadoes merchant, to accept them from thence at that rate. Dated 16 Oct. 1712.
Minuted:—“Mr Chancellor to see to this.”
Again:—“24 Janry 1712–13. The lesser sum to be p[ai]d out of the 130,000li borrd on S. S. Stock.” 2 pages.
[? About
Oct. 17.]
10. Petition of the officers of her Majesty's late regiment of foot commanded by Col. Jasper Clayton, to the Lord High Treasurer. Their regiment suffered much at the siege of Doway in April 1710, and at the close of the campaign lost 150 men with their arms, at the action on the Lyss. They completed their companies and in April 1711 embarked for the expedition to Canada, in which they lost a great many men, and when they landed in England again filled up their companies at great expense. On a report that the privates were to be drafted to Dunkirk, two or three nights before the regiment was disbanded, a great many deserted, which occasioned large respits to be made. Pray for their arrears and to be allowed full on the muster roll.
Minuted:—“17 Oct. 1712. To the Commrs for stating ye army accots.” 1 page.
Oct. 17.11. Memorial of William Royd to the Lord High Treasurer. Prays for the place of deputy searcher in the port of London. “R. Octo. 17, 1712. Recommended by the Honble Henry Bertie.” 1 page.
Oct. 18.12. Copy of memorial of Sir William Wyndham to the Lord High Treasurer representing the applications which had been made for allowance for fire and candle for the garrison of Dunkirk. The garrison was also destitute of all manner of ammunition. They had neither powder, balls, nor shells, not even for our own 24 pieces of cannon which were in the citadel, and they could not be supplied by the Duke of Ormond, his Grace not knowing whether he might not have occasion at Gand, for all the ammunition her Majesty had in the country. Dated Oct. 18, 1712. 2 pages.
Oct. 20.13. Memorial of Mr Brydges to the Lord High Treasurer, praying for 12,887l. 12s. for the pay of the King of Portugal's troops serving in Catalonia, about to march through Spain into their own country, pursuant to conventions entered into by her Majesty's generals and plenipotentiaries. Dated 20 Oct. 1712.
Minuted:—“21 Oct. 1712. Ordered. L~re signed.” 1page.
Oct. 20.14. Order of Council on a report of the Duke of Hamilton, Master General of the Ordnance, for the provision of stores for the province of New York by the Master General of the Ordnance. Dated 20 Oct. 1712. “Duplicate.”
Estimate for the same. (Copy.) 2½ pages.
Oct. 20 & 21.15. Three memorials of the Treasurer of the Navy to the Lord High Treasurer, viz., for 526l. 5s., 32,000l., and 242l. 10s. Dated 20 and 21 Oct. 1712. 3 pages.
Oct. 22.16. “A list of transports, with their burthen and number of men each ship is to carry, which are to bring home the prisoners from Bayonne.” Dated Transport Office, 22 Oct. 1712. ½ page.
Oct. 24.17. Secretary-at-War (Wyndham) to Wm Lowndes, Esq. Such soldiers as were not qualified for relief from Chelsea Hospital usually came to his office for passes to carry them home, by virtue whereof they were subsisted by the civil magistrates on the road until they arrived at their abodes, without any charge to her Majesty. Dated Whitehall, 24 Oct. 1712. 1 page, quarto.
Jan. 4 to
Oct. 24.
18. Pay Office. Memorials of Mr Brydges for supplies of money for the troops in Spain, Portugal, the Low Countries, Canada, Italy, and at Dunkirk; also some reports on individual cases and other papers connected with the Pay Office. Dated between 4 Jan. and 24 Oct. 1712. A parcel.
Oct. 25.19. Secretary-at-War (Wyndham) to the Lord High Treasurer. Had received complaints and prayers for relief from the justices of the peace of the co. of Kent, concerning the excessive charges for conveying sick and wounded soldiers sent home from the army and garrisons in Flanders, whereby the county stock was very much exhausted. Proposed that the same arrangement should be made as was made on the Essex Road, and that the charge should cease on the latter, as few or none would come home that way. Dated Whitehall, Oct. 25, 1712.
The arrangement referred to.
Minuted:—“28th Oct. 1712. To be read when the Comrs are here.” 2½ pages.
[About
Oct. 27.]
20. Memorial of Conyers Darcy and George Feilding, Esqres, Comrs to execute the office of Master of the Horse, to the Lord High Treasurer, praying for the issue of 3,000l. for the tradesmen who supplied the liveries. “R. Octo. 27, 1712.” 1 page.
Oct 29.21. Sir Isaac Newton to the Lord High Treasurer. The late smith of the Mint, Mr Thos Silvester, had “supported himself” against him (Sir Isaac) and the other officers of the Mint by his interest with the Officers of Ordnance (whose smith he also was). In order to prevent the like treatment for the future by a servant, the salary of 50l. per ann. to the smith was in the two last indentures of the Mint, declared to cease upon the next voidance of the place, with intention to settle a smaller salary only by warrant. Richard Fletcher had for two years done the work, and he (Sir Isaac) had paid him according to ancient agreement, but he complained that without a salary he could not carry on the service. Prayed that he might pay the smith for the time being, by warrant under the sign manual, 30l. or 40l. per ann. The smith at Edinburgh was allowed 30l. per ann. Dated Mint Office, Oct. 29, 1712.
Minuted:—“Agreed.” 1 page.
Oct. 29.22. Memorial of the Lords of the Admiralty “for her Majesty,” proposing to pay off three of her Majesty's ships which convoyed home the East India fleet. Dated Admiralty Office, 29 Oct. 1712.
Minuted:—“31 Oct. 1712. To the Lds of Adlty to know what this will come to.” 1 page.
Oct. 30.23. Officers of Ordnance to the Lord High Treasurer as to the officers accountable for stores, the method of passing the accounts, &c. Comrs were appointed for the trains in Flanders and Spain, who issued out no stores but by command of the colonel or commander-in-chief of the train. The accounts for Spain were very imperfect, by reason of the several battles, wherein great quantities of stores were lost. The King of Spain having generally little or no stores in the field, our officers had to supply the whole army. Dated 30 Oct. 1712.
Minuted:—“My Lord is of opinion that such stores as have been delivered to any forces (other than those of her Maty) ought to be charged to the accots of the Princes or States whose forces received the same, unless they were đđ pursuant to any treaty obliging her Maty to furnish ye same. Write to the Audrs of Imprsts to know when any accots of stores in kind belonging to ye navy or Ordñce were passed in the Exchequer, & who ought to pass such accts. 1 page.
[? About
Oct. 30.]
24. Memorial of the officers of Brigadier James Dormer's regiment to the Lord High Treasurer relating to the balance of subsistence due to them.
Minuted:—“30 Oct. 1712. Already sent to Commrs army debts. See what returne they make.” 1 page.
Oct. 31.25. “Copy of Mr Godolphin's meml delivered to the Comrs of Customs as to the establishment of clerks for his office, whose business was to register all trading ships, &c.” Dated Custom house, London, 31 Oct. 1712. 1 page.
[? About
Oct. 31.]
26. Petition to the Lord High Treasurer from Derby Dermott, for himself and the discoverers of concealments, commons, royalties, and other forfeitures in Ireland, and some in England (“found out when there,” as by a true copy of a will would appear). Had petitioned his Lp before his departure out of Windsor, having heard such an extraordinary character of his wisdom and care to serve her Majesty, tho' he found the contrary when he (the Lord Treasurer) would not answer him (the petitioner). It might be her Majesty did lay aside the thirteen petitions which petitioner gave her for the “use of the poorest in the kingdom,” or otherwise they were miscarried in favour of some “poetent” and treasonable persons by some black gownsman. Petitioner was threatened of his life by treasonable and seditious persons, who disannulled her Majesty's power, and said they would not obey her commands in any respect, they being the chief inventors of this oath against the “Roman prists” and her Majesty's poor subjects to breed a dissension between the “Romans” and Protestants, notwithstanding the articles made in Limerick, and confirmed by Parliament. They had hindered these three weeks past “the service of God and subjects,” forcing them to fly from house and home, and would take no notice of her Majesty's last proclamation of cessation of arms for six months. The petitioner and the poor of Ireland depended on his Lp to “insence” her Majesty of these things, and to forward the enclosed petition to her Majesty and put in a caveat that she would not grant any patent of the forfeitures; for there were persons in London who he believed had petitioned for forfeitures valued at 30,000l., besides the towns and lands belonging to them, valued at 1,000l. per ann. Petitioner must make a large book of the particulars, and must obtain her Majesty's directions to the Duke of Ormond to give all necessary orders, as well as directions to Judge Coote to stand by and give orders and warrants for the protection of the petitioner, who had been almost killed on Sunday the 15th of August last. Prayed his Lp to second the enclosed petition to her Majesty.
Minuted:—“31 Oct. 1712. Read.”
The petition to her Majesty referred to, complaining that the petitioners had time out of mind several parcels of commons and high roads until lately, when they were unjustly taken from them by “poetent” persons, who unjustly detained them by way of concealment. The Presbyterians had composed “an oath on set purpose to breed dissension between Romans and Protestants,” to enable themselves to be in rebellion against her Majesty and subjects, being nine to one in number, arms and money both in England and Ireland. They were now compelling her Majesty's subjects to pay taxes contrary to late Acts, besides forcing them to build churches, to their utter ruin, notwithstanding a late Act that all bishops, deans, and ministers should build all parish churches and chapels in Ireland at their own charge these twenty-one years to come. Prayed her Majesty to send the necessary orders by the Lord High Treasurer. 2 pages.
Oct. 31.27. Sir W. Wyndham to Wm Lowndes, Esq., as to the provision of necessaries in the barracks (“cazernes”) at Dunkirk which are allowed and furnished to her Majesty's troops at Ghent; also as to the settlement of the establishment of the garrison. Dated Whitehall, 31 Oct. 1712. 1 page.
[? About
Oct.]
28. Representation to the Ld High Treasurer from the merchants in whose hands the bills were that were drawn by Col. Hunter, Governor of New York, upon the expedition to Canada, asking for an order to be made to the Treasurer of the Navy to pay the same.
Minuted:—“The Comrs of Victg to keep a distinct accot of what they pay upon Collo Hunter's bills, & to write to him forthwith to send over a particular accot of what he has drawn for ye service of ye victualling.”
Also a list of the bills, on which is a Minute of 23 Oct. 1712, “Send this to the Aud[ito]rs,” and one or two other papers. 12pages in a dilapidated condition.